There are many factually incorrect statements above and a few questionable opinions.

If the team does their job, he is done. They did not and caused him to have to go out for the 10th. What part of this confuses you?

Because Humber needed more defense from his team to help him complete a perfect game. Wood struck out 20 batters and needed an average defensive effort(which he did not get) to complete his game. You could argue if Wood had the defense that Humber did that he would have struck out 20 AND thrown a perfect game.

This point seems arbitrary. How you play in overtime/extra innings no longer matters because you could have won in regulation if something else happened besides what actually did happen?

I get what you are saying, but we are debating that the loss is on Hill and it is not. His teammates lost him that game. If they do their job, then he never gives up the HR. I'm not debating how he did in extra innings, because he did not negatively cause the game to go to extra innings. He did everything possible to win except score a run himself. He could have done nothing else to stop it from going into extra innings.

You can say, but he gave up a HR and he caused them to lose in extra innings. Ok, I get it, but in the end his team put him in that position to throw 10 perfect innings of baseball. If he does that, we are calling this, one of the greatest pitching performances ever. To expect that type of performance after a perfect game is unfair to Hill.

Because Humber needed more defense from his team to help him complete a perfect game. Wood struck out 20 batters and needed an average defensive effort(which he did not get) to complete his game. You could argue if Wood had the defense that Humber did that he would have struck out 20 AND thrown a perfect game.

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I wasn't thinking about Rich Hill being a former Cub. Now I see who is discrediting his outing.

"Oh. Makes sense."

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Is this the former Cub that does terrible Harry Caray impressions?

That's the problem though. The floodgates are open that many perfect games aren't considered to be some of the greatest games ever pitched so the fact that he did one and then gave up a homer to batter 28 doesn't mean as much.

Tuff to throw a perfect game when you hit a batter.

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:lol: Gamescore and "should have" is your argument. There isn't even a word to describe the stupidity in that.

I'll edit too.
Look, you are using a made up formula as your basis for the Kerry Wood game. If Bill James or Tom Tango simply said "add 20 points for a 9 inning no hitter, and add 25 points for a 9 inning perfect game" Wood's game falls well back.

Yeah, some people do not understand how allowing two base runners is worse than allowing zero. Some people are ignorant to the fact that a perfect game in a World Series is better than any 20 strikeout game could ever be.

Some ignorant people proclaim themselves a "baseball expert who could get a job in MANY MLB front offices" seem to have trouble understanding such simplistic concepts.

If game score was score differently Kerry Wood would not have the highest game score... that is true

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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Game score is one of the dumbest sports related concepts ever.

Have you researched it enough to have that opinion?

I haven't

I don't know what this means. I know what it is, so I guess the answer is yes.

Yeah I know what it is too and the basic tenets of it but I don't know the story of why they came up with it and how they came up with the numbers I guess you could come up with a conclusion but I think if you did some research you can come up with a better more informed conclusion

You told me to get lost, that the adults were having a discussion, then claimed that you could argue that Kerry Wood might have had a perfect game with the defense that Philip Humber had.

First, go back and watch the Humber prefecto. I believe all 27 outs are on about a 4 minute YouTube vid. There is one line drive that Alex Rios caught that was hard hit. Everything else was a routine out. Second, Kerry Wood hit a batter in his game. He wasn't perfect no matter what defense or Gamescore you give him.

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Please explain how a pitcher COULD have had a perfect game with a hit batsman.

You can always have a better more informed opinion on everything. I'm comfortable with mine on this topic. Anything arguing imperfect is better than perfect is pretty severely flawed.

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If a pitcher retires 27 batsmen (or more, if the game goes into extras) in a row without any of them reaching base via any method, he gets awarded a perfect game.

Always happy to explain baseball to you, Frank Frenchtoast.