I don't believe 1 man or 1 action should make folks lose respect for the office. He won't occupy that seat forever.

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All that does is make him a martyr and inspire millions more to be like him.

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Yes, but while he's in it, it deserves no respect. When he shows the slightest bit of respect to anyone, maybe we can reconsider.

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Shut up.

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Hopefully some coyote takes a shot at leash.

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Good to see you are back leash.

You are having a HUGE week around here btw!!

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I am not Jesus.

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I don't really want him shot. Just roughed up.

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We know. It's OK.

I'll rough up a coyote for you too.

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I think you can respect the office even if you don't respect the person occupying the seat. It's unlikely that I will ever respect Trump

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Why should any man who has occupied the office during my lifetime be respected? They are all murderers who bombed countries posing no existential threat to us and stomped on our Constitutional rights here at home.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

"Respecting the office" sounds a little too monarchical for me and should for anyone else.

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In some respects, sure, but a lack of respect for the office of the president is exactly how we arrive at US DC judges in the 9th Circuit, and the 9th Circuit as well, disregarding the 9th's own precedent on the matter of how much power the president has to unilaterally change immigration protocol, and which review standards to use. Disrespecting the man in the office isn't proper standing to disregard settled matters of law, especially when such law was decided—and thus binding—in your own circuit. Our system doesn't work without stare decisis, but that lack of respect for the office has now been used to cut at the heart of it.

Nas is making all kinds of sense here.

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And 5 (edit: 4 and a befuddled 5th) completely dogmatic Supremes that agree with your types' politics

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There are only three Supremes.

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What "type" is that? And what issues do you have with stare decisis? Was the issue of rational basis review for presidential decrees on immigration, even when said decrees discriminate on otherwise protected lines, not decided in the affirmative by the 9th [EDIT: before they disregarded their own precedent this year]?

Stare decisis is only good when political judges can ignore their own politics or the bigoted, anachronistic views of their sponsors and their ill informed sycophants.

Political speech and the constitutional rights of corporations were well settled issues until self centered, cynical wanna be oligarchs paid off legal tools to do their amoral bidding. You know that type, hell you take every craven effort to defend it.

And you still have no idea what rational basis means in the legal world

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Totally agree on political speech by corporations, however I think there is a bit of a distinction between such a monumental declaration, and disregarding binding precedent on which test applies to a given action.

Remind me where you took this position on speech before. Or how it may not be a massive problem in our recent elections. And a large cause of the mess imo

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Ok: viewtopic.php?f=75&t=102751&p=2571574&hilit=#p2571574

Fair enough.

But what's your opinion on Citizens United?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

But 5 Heartbeats!

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Take it a step further,DR what are your thoughts on La Raza?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Still mad he lost that one?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I said from the beginning that the decision was bad law and a travesty of stare decisis, and MANY other federal judges (including MANY in the 9th Circus, including SCOTUS) agreed with me.

So yes.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

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