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He is correct.

No, he's not. "White supremacist" has different meanings. Bernstein is smuggling in one meaning when he really means (and can provide reasonable evidence for) another. He knows better and, more to the point, he calls people out on this rhetorical fudging all the time.

Either way, Trump's a jag.


What are the different meanings of the phrase "white supremacist"? I always take it to mean someone who thinks/says that white people are supreme because of their whiteness, but am unaware of any other. Are white racists, technically, white supremacists?

the rabid kind who want to come kill non-whites (asian wives seem to be excepted), all that crazy shit. the original meaning.

and then the other meaning encompasses any white person who wants whites to keep their position of advantage. these people are described as folks who vote white, move to white neighborhoods and towns when they can, etc. "the enablers," some people call them. can apply, depending on how you define it, to over 90% of whites. it's really interesting to call this "white supremacy." i'd say it isa useful term, if not for the other, original meaning, which mucks it up. i can't say for sure (and I ain't gonna check), but i think this came into vogue in the early 90s with Ruth Frankenberg and David Roediger.

i've heard some other nuances, too, but i have had a fever all day and am not making sense.

anywho, depending on who you ask, you might get one definition or the other, but there's a lot of sliding back and forth.


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People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.


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He is correct.

Trump trying to spin the arms locked thing as a WIN for him.

Cant blame him for trying


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America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.


That was you? My wife was wondering why you guys left so abruptly.

Off to Target...

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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.


I'm watching The Sopranos for the first time and I just watched the episode where Tony yells at the black/Jewish kid that Meadow brings home. That kid had a lot of spunk to say "Fuck You" to Tony in his own house. Clearly he has no idea who he actually is. :lol:

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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.

So what? Doesn't mean she hates black people. If she was telling it as a joke, then quit being such a burrito and lighten up. If she was actually genuine then maybe she doesn't like being surrounded by blacks? I take it she's white? For millennia people have "stuck to their own", that doesn't mean she wants black people to be discriminated against by the state or that she sees them as less than human. If someone from Turkey living in the USA said they liked going to a Turkish grocery store because there are lots of other people from Turkey there you wouldn't care.

Quit being so sensitive.


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so he basically pulled a jemele hill, will CBS corporate (or whoever plans to own cbs radio) do anything about it? you can't suspend FOTS!


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.


I'm watching The Sopranos for the first time and I just watched the episode where Tony yells at the black/Jewish kid that Meadow brings home. That kid had a lot of spunk to say "Fuck You" to Tony in his own house. Clearly he has no idea who he actually is. :lol:

You're watching it for the first time? Nice.

Wikipedia the side characters as you go. Huge cast (like thrones and the wire) and they all have specific back stories that link and make sense.


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America wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.

So what? Doesn't mean she hates black people. If she was telling it as a joke, then quit being such a burrito and lighten up. If she was actually genuine then maybe she doesn't like being surrounded by blacks? I take it she's white? For millennia people have "stuck to their own", that doesn't mean she wants black people to be discriminated against by the state or that she sees them as less than human. If someone from Turkey living in the USA said they liked going to a Turkish grocery store because there are lots of other people from Turkey there you wouldn't care.

Quit being so sensitive.

You're a goddamn moron. Or willfully ignorant.

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America wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.

So what? Doesn't mean she hates black people. If she was telling it as a joke, then quit being such a burrito and lighten up. If she was actually genuine then maybe she doesn't like being surrounded by blacks? I take it she's white? For millennia people have "stuck to their own", that doesn't mean she wants black people to be discriminated against by the state or that she sees them as less than human. If someone from Turkey living in the USA said they liked going to a Turkish grocery store because there are lots of other people from Turkey there you wouldn't care.

Quit being so sensitive.

:lol: :lol:

I made a point to separate her and say she isnt even who I am talking about being hateful. Did you miss that?

I guess I took the part where she used a slur and laughingly said they cant afford it as derogatory.

But yea, I've always been uncomfortable with racial slurs.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.

So what? Doesn't mean she hates black people. If she was telling it as a joke, then quit being such a burrito and lighten up. If she was actually genuine then maybe she doesn't like being surrounded by blacks? I take it she's white? For millennia people have "stuck to their own", that doesn't mean she wants black people to be discriminated against by the state or that she sees them as less than human. If someone from Turkey living in the USA said they liked going to a Turkish grocery store because there are lots of other people from Turkey there you wouldn't care.

Quit being so sensitive.

:lol: :lol:

I made a point to separate her and say she isnt even who I am talking about being hateful. Did you miss that?

I guess I took the part where she used a slur and laughingly said they cant afford it as derogatory.

But yea, I've always been uncomfortable with racial slurs.

I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


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America is a strange country/poster.

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I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.


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America is a strange country/poster.

Just your typical segregated Chicago xenophobe.

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Jbi11s wrote:
America wrote:
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America wrote:
People do not hate blacks, they hate liberals.

How dare you tell people who they hate?

Incidentally,

Was on a friend's boat Saturday, stopped at a sand bar. Hanging out with a few couples. Men talking about boats, women talking about shopping (like the good old days) and one of the woman announces "oh yea, I love Target, its clean and dont have to deal with the (insert italian slur for black people), they cant afford it"


Just out of fucking nowhere.


Pretty uncomfortable. Luckily we left like 5 minutes later.


But that's not even the harsh ones. There are lots of people who hate black people and would love to tell you about it.

So what? Doesn't mean she hates black people. If she was telling it as a joke, then quit being such a burrito and lighten up. If she was actually genuine then maybe she doesn't like being surrounded by blacks? I take it she's white? For millennia people have "stuck to their own", that doesn't mean she wants black people to be discriminated against by the state or that she sees them as less than human. If someone from Turkey living in the USA said they liked going to a Turkish grocery store because there are lots of other people from Turkey there you wouldn't care.

Quit being so sensitive.

You're a goddamn moron. Or willfully ignorant.

seconded.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.


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America wrote:
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America wrote:
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.


What is American culture to you America?

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America wrote:
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America wrote:
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.

:lol: :lol:

I also love The Sopranos though! And Game of Thrones!

I must worship Italian and Dragon culture, too!

I would love if you could explain how this means or relates to demasculating myself. That's interesting.


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You already know. I don't have to tell you.


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You already know. I don't have to tell you.

I'm one of the few people here who never dismisses you based on some things you've posted in the past. Humor me.

Also, why so mad? or whatever you are right now? You care what I think?


Also, the yuppies thing is hilarious. I spend 75% of my recreational time in Monticello, Indiana. Not many yuppies out there! You would love it!


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You already know. I don't have to tell you.

I'm one of the few people here who never dismisses you based on some things you've posted in the past. Humor me.

Also, why so mad? or whatever you are right now? You care what I think?

Because you should stick to your own race, and whatever that race's perceived, attributed culture is.

How do people like America not see how blending cultures helps a society advance? What is the concern there?

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Jbi11s wrote:
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You already know. I don't have to tell you.

I'm one of the few people here who never dismisses you based on some things you've posted in the past. Humor me.

Also, why so mad? or whatever you are right now? You care what I think?

Because you should stick to your own race, and whatever that race's perceived, attributed culture is.

How do people like America not see how blending cultures helps a society advance? What is the concern there?

I'm not even that woke. I just dont care for the slurs. It seems hateful. Im a guy who likes to keep it positive.


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America wrote:
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America wrote:
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.


You have to admit this is kinda funny.

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You have to admit this is kinda funny.

I dont have to do nothing but stay (worshipping) black (culture) and die!


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America is a strange country/poster.

i used to think this. but being a very mad edgy white guy (grrrrr!) is popular now.


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Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.


damn dude

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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
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America wrote:
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.

:lol: :lol:

I also love The Sopranos though! And Game of Thrones!

I must worship Italian and Dragon culture, too!

I would love if you could explain how this means or relates to demasculating myself. That's interesting.


I think it puts you on the cuck spectrum.

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America is a strange country/poster.


This is actually a great topic for the General Discussion forum: Who is the strangest poster in board history? America, Big Fan, and Panther are all in the team photo.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
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America wrote:
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable. Is there anything we can do to make your stay on Earth more pleasant? I mean, were all here to make sure you are as comfortable as possible. Let us know.


No one has to do anything. I just don't associate with those people. I don't miss them and they probably don't miss me (although I am pretty cool)


Now complete the cycle and say I need a safe space because some dumb ass threw out a racial slur for no reason and I wasnt a fan of it.

The fact that you already know what kind of reaction people will have to your pearl clutching bitchfits says it all doesn't it? You don't need a safe space, you've already got one. Go talk about the Wire and Kendrick Lamar with your yuppie friends, like worshipping black culture somehow makes up for how thoroughly you've demasculated yourself.

:lol: :lol:

I also love The Sopranos though!


So you turned off the Sopranos everytime a racist comment was made?

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