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I'm surprised no one has referenced the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry tries to sell Toyotas.

I hope you are successful and enjoy it.

That's a great scene. When he gives up and says I created Seinfeld to a customer near the end is hilarious.


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Good for you! Your first job as a parent will and always will be to support your family the best you can possibly do.

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I'm surprised no one has referenced the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry tries to sell Toyotas.

I hope you are successful and enjoy it.

That's a great scene. When he gives up and says I created Seinfeld to a customer near the end is hilarious.



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There are three things that you should understand about Jason Goff, other hosts and me.

1) I was the only guy on the air staff who went to bat for him. In '09, when Spiegel missed a day with an illness, I was told "no" on Teddy Greenstein as a last-minute sub because everybody hated him. Hard feelings over him writing positive things about the MJH show, even hosting it one day. I then asked for Jason and Mitch said no. I kept after it 'til I finally got him on board. For that, Jason owes me nothing. He was grateful at the time and expressed it. He was solid as a fill-in so as far as I'm concerned, the favor was returned.


Good for you for taking the high road. But Jason being a dick to you with his "Da Ma Na" thing shows what a phony he is. And a scumbag.

Bernstein: Here's a story about a racist druggie in Florida.

Goff: Da Ma Na.

That type of thing.

I don't doubt Goff is/was kind to you face to face. But that's the phony that he is. When he had B&B's shield, he ripped you to shreds. Basically calling you a white trash racist.

I think you know that, Mac. But you don't want to burn bridges. You're still looking to get back in.


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I don't have to sell you a car to tell you what I really think of Bernstein. Let me save you the trip.

I believe his charitable efforts with pediatric oncology are both genuine and admirable. Raising money is no easy endeavor and I know for a fact Dan rolls up his sleeves and busts grapes for the cause.

His producers have been clear (not Shep -- yet) he wasn't generous to them. When Spiegs and I were rehearsing before takeoff in June of '09, Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed. You can fill in the blanks.

He can be charming. His bedside manner is top shelf when it needs to be.

His treatment of those who aren't his intellectual equal is deplorable.

I'd go musky fishing with him. He's not a pussy, physically, and I know he'd research the craft and understand you have to throw big baits with big tackle 'til you're sore and sometimes never see a fish, yet keep throwing. He enjoys the outdoors. I'm happiest when I'm on the water with a 9' St.Croix Big Nasty in my hands. It'd be fun throwing with him... to get him on "my turf." Some of my best friends (and fishermen) don't have the stomach for musky hunting. I bet he would.

It's my perception he doesn't have many friends. I don't think many trust him. The veneer, not the guy I know, comes off as arrogant, aloof and selfish.

There were several road trips where I enjoyed his company. A strip club in Phoenix in '96 (his first). San Diego in '98. On that trip, he and I were both stuck between choices on the menu. One of 'em was the same. We ordered three entrees and split the one we both wanted. I think it was Pacific swordfish, but don't hold me to it. Matt Fishman, my EP then, told us it was bad form to order an extra entree. Bernsie and I got blasted together in Salt Lake City with the Bulls in '97. We crashed Grobber's overnight show and assumed control.

Dan can suck the joy out of the dumbest shit. Even the strip club was like a sociology class assignment, a participant observer type of thing (Participant Observe was the name of my column sophomore year at Ball State, for the award-winning and nationally-respected Daily News.) I'd probably flick ash on him if we fished muskies and he started doing metrics on cast-to-follow ratio or fishing WAR. His passion for metrics is a turnoff to a lot of people who just wanna be a part of the party and use radio and sports for escapism, not to go to fucking school.

Other musings:

It bothers me his smartest-guy-in-the-room style has permeated the air staff there (with few exceptions). I don't fault him for that. If the others feel they have to pass the Bernstein dick-quotient litmus test, shame on them, not Dan. Have the balls to be yourself and not try to impress another host because you also are smarter and better than your audience. There isn't enough fraternity house feel at the Score for my tastes. But Bernsie is just one guy. The others who play follow the leader... well... that's on them.

It is a fact Bernstein was the only Score host who reached out to Danny Parkins and welcomed him to the air staff. I was not surprised when I learned this.

In Miami in '99, my wife, Jill, and Dan Jiggetts had to restrain me and keep me from going Doug Buffone on him when he was laughing about bad pub the station got in the Sun-Times. Dan was still a reporter or evening host with designs on moving up and several wondered if he planted the fucking story with Robert Feder. There never was evidence he did, but he was a suspect.

He's sympathetic to people with mental health issues. He understands it is a physical, neurological disease. He also has been willing to have conversations with me about autism and even share some stuff on the topic with me. I believed it to be sincere. He's a father, too.

I wonder if something happened to Dan in his childhood he hasn't come to grips with. Or maybe he wants to talk about it on the air but doesn't want to hurt somebody. Maybe he hates himself for something he did. His hostility and often contemptuous disposition isn't an accident. There is some deep-rooted hurt there. He loves Silence of the Lambs. Somebody should ask him "What is your worst memory of childhood... and don't lie, or I'll know."

Anything else?


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 Post subject: Re: Yes. I am.
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Psycory wrote:
I'm surprised no one has referenced the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry tries to sell Toyotas.

I hope you are successful and enjoy it.

That's a great scene. When he gives up and says I created Seinfeld to a customer near the end is hilarious.


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 Post subject: Re: Yes. I am.
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He's sympathetic to people with mental health issues.

This is the only thing that surprised me. I've never gotten that vibe at all.

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I think your assessment of Dan is generous. Even in a difficult year he lacks humility to the point I would question it being a veneer. I also question his sympathies and motives. Being right seems to be his driving force, he can always then point to being good. He seeks approval from authority and loves moral indignation. That attitude doesn't go over well in peer groups when you are young. It can be an even worse look at his age. He probably could not get out of his own way when he was younger.

While I'd agree his hostility and often contemptuous disposition isn't an accident it's possible it's a result of being awkward or not well liked in almost every phase and situation in life. Ironically, he doesn't use his best gift - his intelligence - for "good." He uses that to belittle people, especially if they don't agree with him. People want to follow him but he seems like a shitty leader. It makes me question his intelligence or he is fragile and everything about him is some sort of facade? I'd feel bad for him if he didn't come off like such a condescending, colossal, assbag most of the time.

Good Luck. I hope you find peace and joy, now and in the future.


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Mac, good to hear about your new job. Subscribed to your podcast today and will start going through the archive tomorrow.

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Mac FM wrote:
I don't have to sell you a car to tell you what I really think of Bernstein. Let me save you the trip.

I believe his charitable efforts with pediatric oncology are both genuine and admirable. Raising money is no easy endeavor and I know for a fact Dan rolls up his sleeves and busts grapes for the cause.

His producers have been clear (not Shep -- yet) he wasn't generous to them. When Spiegs and I were rehearsing before takeoff in June of '09, Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed. You can fill in the blanks.

He can be charming. His bedside manner is top shelf when it needs to be.

His treatment of those who aren't his intellectual equal is deplorable.

I'd go musky fishing with him. He's not a pussy, physically, and I know he'd research the craft and understand you have to throw big baits with big tackle 'til you're sore and sometimes never see a fish, yet keep throwing. He enjoys the outdoors. I'm happiest when I'm on the water with a 9' St.Croix Big Nasty in my hands. It'd be fun throwing with him... to get him on "my turf." Some of my best friends (and fishermen) don't have the stomach for musky hunting. I bet he would.

It's my perception he doesn't have many friends. I don't think many trust him. The veneer, not the guy I know, comes off as arrogant, aloof and selfish.

There were several road trips where I enjoyed his company. A strip club in Phoenix in '96 (his first). San Diego in '98. On that trip, he and I were both stuck between choices on the menu. One of 'em was the same. We ordered three entrees and split the one we both wanted. I think it was Pacific swordfish, but don't hold me to it. Matt Fishman, my EP then, told us it was bad form to order an extra entree. Bernsie and I got blasted together in Salt Lake City with the Bulls in '97. We crashed Grobber's overnight show and assumed control.

Dan can suck the joy out of the dumbest shit. Even the strip club was like a sociology class assignment, a participant observer type of thing (Participant Observe was the name of my column sophomore year at Ball State, for the award-winning and nationally-respected Daily News.) I'd probably flick ash on him if we fished muskies and he started doing metrics on cast-to-follow ratio or fishing WAR. His passion for metrics is a turnoff to a lot of people who just wanna be a part of the party and use radio and sports for escapism, not to go to fucking school.

Other musings:

It bothers me his smartest-guy-in-the-room style has permeated the air staff there (with few exceptions). I don't fault him for that. If the others feel they have to pass the Bernstein dick-quotient litmus test, shame on them, not Dan. Have the balls to be yourself and not try to impress another host because you also are smarter and better than your audience. There isn't enough fraternity house feel at the Score for my tastes. But Bernsie is just one guy. The others who play follow the leader... well... that's on them.

It is a fact Bernstein was the only Score host who reached out to Danny Parkins and welcomed him to the air staff. I was not surprised when I learned this.

In Miami in '99, my wife, Jill, and Dan Jiggetts had to restrain me and keep me from going Doug Buffone on him when he was laughing about bad pub the station got in the Sun-Times. Dan was still a reporter or evening host with designs on moving up and several wondered if he planted the fucking story with Robert Feder. There never was evidence he did, but he was a suspect.

He's sympathetic to people with mental health issues. He understands it is a physical, neurological disease. He also has been willing to have conversations with me about autism and even share some stuff on the topic with me. I believed it to be sincere. He's a father, too.

I wonder if something happened to Dan in his childhood he hasn't come to grips with. Or maybe he wants to talk about it on the air but doesn't want to hurt somebody. Maybe he hates himself for something he did. His hostility and often contemptuous disposition isn't an accident. There is some deep-rooted hurt there. He loves Silence of the Lambs. Somebody should ask him "What is your worst memory of childhood... and don't lie, or I'll know."

Anything else?

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Good post on Bernsie Mac. Your fans have always appreciated your candor and willingness to talk/post.

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Good post on Bernsie Mac. Your fans have always appreciated your candor and willingness to talk/post.


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Funny enough, I drove past Webb in Highland after grabbing lunch on the way to Columbus yesterday. I woulda stopped by had I read this thread prior; also, we just inked a (unexpectedly :x ) large purchase of a vehicle for Mrs. Meatball...

The fishing WAR line was :lol:

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He's sympathetic to people with mental health issues.

This is the only thing that surprised me. I've never gotten that vibe at all.

Well considering his wife had a nervous breakdown and subsequent treatment , it shouldn't . She just can't get fat .

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His producers have been clear (not Shep -- yet) he wasn't generous to them. When Spiegs and I were rehearsing before takeoff in June of '09, Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed.


Oh, is that what he told you it was for?

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His producers have been clear (not Shep -- yet) he wasn't generous to them. When Spiegs and I were rehearsing before takeoff in June of '09, Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed.


Oh, is that what he told you it was for?



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I think your assessment of Dan is generous. Even in a difficult year he lacks humility to the point I would question it being a veneer. I also question his sympathies and motives. Being right seems to be his driving force, he can always then point to being good. He seeks approval from authority and loves moral indignation. That attitude doesn't go over well in peer groups when you are young. It can be an even worse look at his age. He probably could not get out of his own way when he was younger.

While I'd agree his hostility and often contemptuous disposition isn't an accident it's possible it's a result of being awkward or not well liked in almost every phase and situation in life. Ironically, he doesn't use his best gift - his intelligence - for "good." He uses that to belittle people, especially if they don't agree with him. People want to follow him but he seems like a shitty leader. It makes me question his intelligence or he is fragile and everything about him is some sort of facade? I'd feel bad for him if he didn't come off like such a condescending, colossal, assbag most of the time.

Good Luck. I hope you find peace and joy, now and in the future.


I also disagree with Mac's assessment of Bernstein that he based on knowing him for several years.

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Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed.\

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Beardown....

If you think I'm couching my opinion "to get back in" you're mistaken. If I were to consider taking something full-time, at the Score or anywhere else, everything would have to be right. Producers. Co-host. Time slot. I'm not cracking up, my friend. I walked away from it because it became joyless and I would have to think long and hard about going back to a full-time gig. I think I proved when I took the gig at the Drive, money is not what dictates my decisions. That hasn't changed.

As for what Jason intimated... I really don't care. As we've discussed before, how can I be upset with anybody for calling me white trash. I've said that about myself. Red neck? No... and anybody who knows me knows that. I like to fish and Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of my favorite American bands, but I abhor racism, homophobia and other bad behaviors people exhibit because they fear people unlike themselves. I never got the impression Jason or anybody else believes I'm anything but an open-minded, non-judgmental dude (except for grammar).

I think holding grudges is dangerous. Yes, I've done it in my life, but the older I get and the more bitter people I come across (Chet Coppock, Garry Meier, etc.) the more I KNOW I don't want to be like that. That's the kind of disposition that causes disease. I got enough baggage.


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I think your assessment of Dan is generous. Even in a difficult year he lacks humility to the point I would question it being a veneer. I also question his sympathies and motives. Being right seems to be his driving force, he can always then point to being good. He seeks approval from authority and loves moral indignation. That attitude doesn't go over well in peer groups when you are young. It can be an even worse look at his age. He probably could not get out of his own way when he was younger.

While I'd agree his hostility and often contemptuous disposition isn't an accident it's possible it's a result of being awkward or not well liked in almost every phase and situation in life. Ironically, he doesn't use his best gift - his intelligence - for "good." He uses that to belittle people, especially if they don't agree with him. People want to follow him but he seems like a shitty leader. It makes me question his intelligence or he is fragile and everything about him is some sort of facade? I'd feel bad for him if he didn't come off like such a condescending, colossal, assbag most of the time.

Good Luck. I hope you find peace and joy, now and in the future.


I also disagree with Mac's assessment of Bernstein that he based on knowing him for several years.

:lol: She knows it from being a long time listener to B&B.

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His producers have been clear (not Shep -- yet) he wasn't generous to them. When Spiegs and I were rehearsing before takeoff in June of '09, Matty borrowed $300 from me to get his car fixed.


Oh, is that what he told you it was for?



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What did Bernstein win, Billy. Help me here.

If I may, I believe he's saying in thread about you , Lil Danny gets brought up.

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Speaking of SiriusXM, do they, or will they, ever have the bandwidth (?) to pull local talent and create sports radio hot spot stations? SiriusChicagoSports, SiriusNewYork, LA, South Florida, etc. Offer it for an extra couple bucks a month.

Is the market share so small that it doesn't make sense?

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Beardown....

If you think I'm couching my opinion "to get back in" you're mistaken. If I were to consider taking something full-time, at the Score or anywhere else, everything would have to be right. Producers. Co-host. Time slot. I'm not cracking up, my friend. I walked away from it because it became joyless and I would have to think long and hard about going back to a full-time gig. I think I proved when I took the gig at the Drive, money is not what dictates my decisions. That hasn't changed.

As for what Jason intimated... I really don't care. As we've discussed before, how can I be upset with anybody for calling me white trash. I've said that about myself. Red neck? No... and anybody who knows me knows that. I like to fish and Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of my favorite American bands, but I abhor racism, homophobia and other bad behaviors people exhibit because they fear people unlike themselves. I never got the impression Jason or anybody else believes I'm anything but an open-minded, non-judgmental dude (except for grammar).

I think holding grudges is dangerous. Yes, I've done it in my life, but the older I get and the more bitter people I come across (Chet Coppock, Garry Meier, etc.) the more I KNOW I don't want to be like that. That's the kind of disposition that causes disease. I got enough baggage.


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Speaking of SiriusXM, do they, or will they, ever have the bandwidth (?) to pull local talent and create sports radio hot spot stations? SiriusChicagoSports, SiriusNewYork, LA, South Florida, etc. Offer it for an extra couple bucks a month.

Is the market share so small that it doesn't make sense?


I never looked into the details but I am surprised this does not already exist.

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