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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:35 pm 
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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.


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The eastern schism, which resulted in the Orthodox church was mostly due to the infallibility of the pope. The western schism started by Luther was due to a multitude of reasons including transubstantiation and other issues with the Catholic church - the pope and the church selling indulgences, popes and bishops having mistresses and their own armies, etc.



Numerous popes have had mistresses.

I don't find it helpful to make my own life decisions based upon the poor behavior of a few.


I'm not Martin Luther in case you thought so. I wasn't advocating one way or the other.

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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.

Well, there's helping people, but then there's helping people once you've eaten Jesus

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

As they should be. Well done, Catholic Church (I mean that sincerely)


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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

As they should be. Well done, Catholic Church (I mean that sincerely)


Yes

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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Sola scriptua
Sola fide
Sola gratia



Still waiting for anyone to show me where the Bible says Sola Scriptura.

The hell? The Bible IS the scriptura, ya nut.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Sola scriptua
Sola fide
Sola gratia



Still waiting for anyone to show me where the Bible says Sola Scriptura.

The hell? The Bible IS the scriptura, ya nut.


Agreed.

We disagree on anything not scriptural. I'm still waiting for anyone to show me where the bible states that anything of a religious teaching must be only sourced from the Bible.

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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Curious Hair wrote:
You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

As they should be. Well done, Catholic Church (I mean that sincerely)
There is some questionable accounting involved in making that claim though which is why it is often claimed but rarely put into actual numbers. For instance, Catholic hospitals seem to be included and that includes the revenue they get from the government and insurance for providing care. It seems, and I can be corrected on this, that a nurse working for a Catholic hospital and being paid by them would be an example of "charitable spending" by the Church.

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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Lutherans paid for my dad's detox once. The real one, not the one where you drink smoothies.

Thanks, Lutherans!

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There is some questionable accounting

well, it ain't Jews or the 94th Missourah Synod

(spreading around all that love and cash, I mean)
(well, it might be those groups)


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Lutherans paid for my dad's detox once. The real one, not the one where you drink smoothies.

Thanks, Lutherans!

Lutherans have hot chicks (and I mean that seriously)


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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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Meh, too Nordic for me.

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Curious Hair goes in for the more exotic Protestants.

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tommy wrote:
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Lutherans paid for my dad's detox once. The real one, not the one where you drink smoothies.

Thanks, Lutherans!

Lutherans have hot chicks (and I mean that seriously)


They do have beautiful girls.

I married one.

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

As they should be. Well done, Catholic Church (I mean that sincerely)

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is some questionable accounting involved in making that claim though which is why it is often claimed but rarely put into actual numbers. For instance, Catholic hospitals seem to be included and that includes the revenue they get from the government and insurance for providing care. It seems, and I can be corrected on this, that a nurse working for a Catholic hospital and being paid by them would be an example of "charitable spending" by the Church.


Brick highlighting the fallacy of the whole separation of church/state argument he loves to allege.

It's a Reformation Day miracle.

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Phil and Don

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Phil and Don


Brother Michael, auntie Gin...

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Martin Luther was a raging Anti-Semite.

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Martin Luther was a raging Anti-Semite.

So is Santa Claus. Let the guy have his day.

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Telegram Sam wrote:
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Martin Luther was a raging Anti-Semite.

So is Santa Claus. Let the guy have his day.



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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
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Seacrest wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

I've seen non Catholics do that, too.



Of course you have. Glory to God and to all people of goodwill of which there are many. One of Mother Therese's largest financial supporters was Jewish.

Having said that, the largest provider of social services across the globe is the Catholic Church.

As they should be. Well done, Catholic Church (I mean that sincerely)

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is some questionable accounting involved in making that claim though which is why it is often claimed but rarely put into actual numbers. For instance, Catholic hospitals seem to be included and that includes the revenue they get from the government and insurance for providing care. It seems, and I can be corrected on this, that a nurse working for a Catholic hospital and being paid by them would be an example of "charitable spending" by the Church.


Brick highlighting the fallacy of the whole separation of church/state argument he loves to allege.

It's a Reformation Day miracle.

Um what?

Are you saying ban religion in hospitals?

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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:35 pm 
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Curious Hair wrote:
You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

You may want to mention that to the Speaker of the House....


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 Post subject: Re: Martin Luther
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:40 pm 
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Lutherans paid for my dad's detox once. The real one, not the one where you drink smoothies.

Thanks, Lutherans!

Lutherans have hot chicks (and I mean that seriously)

And also don't believe that you have to kiss Jesus ass to get into heaven, and that if you aren't one of us you're going to hell ;-)


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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.

Why do you think that Catholics actually take care of the poor and under served?

You may want to mention that to the Speaker of the House....



OK

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Sola scriptua
Sola fide
Sola gratia



Still waiting for anyone to show me where the Bible says Sola Scriptura.

The hell? The Bible IS the scriptura, ya nut.


Agreed.

We disagree on anything not scriptural. I'm still waiting for anyone to show me where the bible states that anything of a religious teaching must be only sourced from the Bible.


You're most confusing.

You mean aside from the necessary presumption on your part that the Bible wasn't complete? Your assertion, by necessity, carries the pretty clear implication that God half-assed the Bible.

I mean ... and I have to be careful here ... what you need to know is in this book .... BUT .... (sigh) .... there are other things you need to know that will be told to you all over a period of hundreds, if not in fact thousands, of years by very. smart. people.

If something is true and necessary, then it's always true and necessary - so Pope Fred saying something in 2027AD doesn't do shit for peasant Mike in 1427.

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Phil and Don

:lol: :lol:

That one and 'Uncle Albert' were songs a very young Don Tiny enjoyed greatly.

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Phil and Don


Brother Michael, auntie Gin...


:lol: let em in.

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You really think you're eating Jesus?


Of course I do.


As do I.

The idea that Jesus said what He said but really He meant something different requires a most peculiar choreography of mental gymnastics ... not to mention that He chose wine and bread, not lemonade and lady-fingers.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Sola scriptua
Sola fide
Sola gratia



Still waiting for anyone to show me where the Bible says Sola Scriptura.

The hell? The Bible IS the scriptura, ya nut.


Agreed.

We disagree on anything not scriptural. I'm still waiting for anyone to show me where the bible states that anything of a religious teaching must be only sourced from the Bible.


You're most confusing.

You mean aside from the necessary presumption on your part that the Bible wasn't complete? Your assertion, by necessity, carries the pretty clear implication that God half-assed the Bible.

I mean ... and I have to be careful here ... what you need to know is in this book .... BUT .... (sigh) .... there are other things you need to know that will be told to you all over a period of hundreds, if not in fact thousands, of years by very. smart. people.

If something is true and necessary, then it's always true and necessary - so Pope Fred saying something in 2027AD doesn't do shit for peasant Mike in 1427.


The Bible can be complete, which it is, while still making room for traditions, which there are, that carry on to this very day.

The Bible was the end of divine revelation. Not the end of all revelation.

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