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What the fuck with this playcalling

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It was also clear as day live that he lost the ball. I don't know what game you guys are watching.

Right. Frame-by-frame replays create this bizarre shadow game where technicalities become more important than actual play on the field. There's a big difference between replay existing to see if a didn't trap the ball against the ground for a "catch" and deciding to just wipe TD's off the board or create turnovers out of thin air.

There's no moderation anymore.


Exactly. Whether it was right or wrong, it's such bullshit to have a touchdown now gone because a guy reached out for the pylon and may have dropped it a millisecond before his foot hit out due to a replay review. It's just getting ridiculous.


If he holds on to the ball, it's a touchdown. We aren't handing out participation trophies here.

Zack Miller held onto the ball last week and it wasn't a TD. Why should I believe that matters?


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That's the stupidest rule in sports



Which one?


Calling for the touchback there


What else should/could it be? It wasn't possessed across the goal line and the ball touched the pylon which is out of bounds. Live ball possessed touching the pylon is a touchdown as you are in the end zone at that point. Ball unpossessed and touching it is out of bounds...offense fumble put it there so it is a touchback.

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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.


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Nice to see Matthews can throw an elbow into Tru's head while he's already on the ground.

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Is Dowel the worst play caller in the NFL? Has to be up there

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Bisky has mastered the get sacked play

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Chus wrote:
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It was also clear as day live that he lost the ball. I don't know what game you guys are watching.

Right. Frame-by-frame replays create this bizarre shadow game where technicalities become more important than actual play on the field. There's a big difference between replay existing to see if a didn't trap the ball against the ground for a "catch" and deciding to just wipe TD's off the board or create turnovers out of thin air.

There's no moderation anymore.


Exactly. Whether it was right or wrong, it's such bullshit to have a touchdown now gone because a guy reached out for the pylon and may have dropped it a millisecond before his foot hit out due to a replay review. It's just getting ridiculous.


If he holds on to the ball, it's a touchdown. We aren't handing out participation trophies here.


It has nothing to do with participation trophies. It's fucking minutia bullshit that shouldn't have any effect on the outcome of a football game, especially due to review. And that wasn't a clear cut fumble. Certainly not enough to overturn on a review.

By the way, the fact that the refs agree with you probably means you're wrong.

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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.

You should get the ball back where you started the dive


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Nice to see Matthews can throw an elbow into Tru's head while he's already on the ground.


Besides his phony hustling, that's all he's done in the last two years

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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.

You should get the ball back where you started the dive


Correct. Awful, awful rule.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Nice to see Matthews can throw an elbow into Tru's head while he's already on the ground.

yeah no doubt, I was waiting for the flag. No idea how they missed that

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.

You should get the ball back where you started the dive


It is a good rule. Don't fumble.

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Its also the fact that every play needs to have the refs be involved somehow. A flag or a replay or something...its just not football. Its 22 guys kind of trying to make something happen and then the refs barging in changing the results of half of the plays for no real reason.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.

You should get the ball back where you started the dive



This ^^

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's a horrible rule. There's no reason to ever dive for the pylon because of it.

You should get the ball back where you started the dive


Reward the offense for not being able to control the ball across the goal line?

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I always thought it was weird that everything is up for grabs when you challenge a play.

If you challenge it is a TD, it should be a yes or no.

If GB wants to challenge something else, let them do so and take their chances.

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I always thought it was weird that everything is up for grabs when you challenge a play.

If you challenge it is a TD, it should be a yes or no.

If GB wants to challenge something else, let them do so and take their chances.


Right.

Fuck the NFL.

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Its also the fact that every play needs to have the refs be involved somehow. A flag or a replay or something...its just not football. Its 22 guys kind of trying to make something happen and then the refs barging in changing the results of half of the plays for no real reason.


Yep.

It's not just replay. Every goddamn play, there's a flag.

The refs "default" should be not to throw a flag, but it seems like when they're in doubt, they choose to throw the flag. And it has happened with replay now too, even though it was originally supposed to be just clear, indisputable evidence to overturn plays. There's no consistency to any of it. These guys are out there fucking killing themselves to have it all be brushed away on the whim of some old fuck who can't even see the play.

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I'm turning this shit off. It's not good to get this angry over a game.

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It was also clear as day live that he lost the ball. I don't know what game you guys are watching.

Right. Frame-by-frame replays create this bizarre shadow game where technicalities become more important than actual play on the field. There's a big difference between replay existing to see if a didn't trap the ball against the ground for a "catch" and deciding to just wipe TD's off the board or create turnovers out of thin air.

There's no moderation anymore.


Exactly. Whether it was right or wrong, it's such bullshit to have a touchdown now gone because a guy reached out for the pylon and may have dropped it a millisecond before his foot hit out due to a replay review. It's just getting ridiculous.


If he holds on to the ball, it's a touchdown. We aren't handing out participation trophies here.

Zack Miller held onto the ball last week and it wasn't a TD. Why should I believe that matters?


This was a clear fumble after a run. It has nothing to do with the rules about catch/no catch.

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Its also the fact that every play needs to have the refs be involved somehow. A flag or a replay or something...its just not football. Its 22 guys kind of trying to make something happen and then the refs barging in changing the results of half of the plays for no real reason.


Yep.

It's not just replay. Every goddamn play, there's a flag.

The refs "default" should be not to throw a flag, but it seems like when they're in doubt, they choose to throw the flag. And it has happened with replay now too, even though it was originally supposed to be just clear, indisputable evidence to overturn plays. There's no consistency to any of it. These guys are out there fucking killing themselves to have it all be brushed away on the whim of some old fuck who can't even see the play.


Case in point...Bears are called for a hold on the back side of a run play earlier...had no impact on the play. No obvious advantage/disadvantage was gained so why flag it?

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leashyourkids wrote:
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Its also the fact that every play needs to have the refs be involved somehow. A flag or a replay or something...its just not football. Its 22 guys kind of trying to make something happen and then the refs barging in changing the results of half of the plays for no real reason.


Yep.

It's not just replay. Every goddamn play, there's a flag.

The refs "default" should be not to throw a flag, but it seems like when they're in doubt, they choose to throw the flag. And it has happened with replay now too, even though it was originally supposed to be just clear, indisputable evidence to overturn plays. There's no consistency to any of it. These guys are out there fucking killing themselves to have it all be brushed away on the whim of some old fuck who can't even see the play.

Yea I dont know when they just gave up on indisuputable evidence. Bring back the replacement refs who just froze up and stopped calling shit after the GB/Sea fiasco.


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Man, this game is horrible.

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Just let (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky throw the ball and they win this game going away.

Honestly, why doesn't the kid just say 'fuck it' and ignore the next stupid play call and draw something up himself? What are they gonna do, bench him?

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It was also clear as day live that he lost the ball. I don't know what game you guys are watching.

Right. Frame-by-frame replays create this bizarre shadow game where technicalities become more important than actual play on the field. There's a big difference between replay existing to see if a didn't trap the ball against the ground for a "catch" and deciding to just wipe TD's off the board or create turnovers out of thin air.

There's no moderation anymore.


Exactly. Whether it was right or wrong, it's such bullshit to have a touchdown now gone because a guy reached out for the pylon and may have dropped it a millisecond before his foot hit out due to a replay review. It's just getting ridiculous.


If he holds on to the ball, it's a touchdown. We aren't handing out participation trophies here.


It has nothing to do with participation trophies. It's fucking minutia bullshit that shouldn't have any effect on the outcome of a football game, especially due to review. And that wasn't a clear cut fumble. Certainly not enough to overturn on a review.

By the way, the fact that the refs agree with you probably means you're wrong.


It's not minutia. If he has possession of the ball when it hits the pylon, it's a touchdown. If he fumbles it and it hits the pylon, it's a touchback. These have been the rules for as long as I have been watching football.

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THROW THE FUCKING BALL UP WHEN THERE'S A DEFENSIVE PENALTY.

The hell with this game.

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CALL A FUCKING PLAY

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Case in point...Bears are called for a hold on the back side of a run play earlier...had no impact on the play. No obvious advantage/disadvantage was gained so why flag it?

My best guess is the refs enjoy involving themselves. There's really no other way to explain it.


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