Smith took the much bigger leap from nothing to good under Harbaugh than the good to very good step he has taken under Reid. Your point about the benching is irrelevant to the discussion but Reid drafted a QB in the first round to replace Smith.

The NFL didn't figure Kaepernick out too quickly as he went on a two year run that only ended when his relationship with Harbaugh ended.

We are not discussing whether Harbaugh SHOULD be a future head coach. He already has an impressive record and if he made himself available would have NFL and NCAA suitors. We are discussing his coaching impact on QB. I contend Josh Johnson is not drafted by the NFL if not taught by Harbaugh. You contend that those NFL qualities were present when he decided to play for a school that has never produced an NFL player before him.

I imagine you will want to reconvene in the next two weeks as Peters faces Wisconsin and Ohio State. I will want to reconvene in two years but will have forgotten about this conversation.

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Your imagination is tainted by your trolling in the Cubs section.

I grew up a Michigan fan, and hope that Peters does well.

I'm aware that Harbaugh is a solid bet to be a head coach somewhere for a long time. Despite the fact his track record of developing successful QB's long term has been less than stellar.

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You know what has been good? His track record of winning fucking games.

But not the big game.

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what about Fangio?

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Mangino

The Bears have made the playoffs 4 times this millennium, lets worry about making the playoffs first.

I'd be down with Harbaugh. Dude is eccentric, but he can coach. Thing is, I see Pace as an obstacle to landing guys like Jim. All these guys like Payton and Harbaugh will want more power than the traditional coach would. I think even McDaniels will demand more say than your average coach. And if you look at some of the best teams in the league, that's kind of how it works. Those guys are the football minds making the football decisions, a team with a GM like Pace isn't going in that direction imo. Only way it happens is by ousting Pace and starting all over again. And I doubt the Bears are the organization for that. They seem to be looking to establish some continuity for what it's worth.

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Eccentric would be one for it.

1-5 vs Ohio State and MSU. Got beaten today by a redshirt freshman QB.

Keep Harbaugh, I want a coach that is a proven winner. Like Urban Meyer.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Smith benched for Mahomes in the next few weeks.

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I think its going to be Matt Patricia. Just my gut feeling.

Interesting. You don't think Pace is going Offense for HC?

It would be so "Bears" to hire a defensive head coach when you desperately need an offensive mind for Trubsiki.

Depending on what other jobs are open, I'm gonna guess Frank Reich.

I'm not sure he's going to want it. He's turning 56 next week, he's probably only going to get one chance to be a head coach. Why take this job if anybody else wants him?

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I agree, that's why I prefaced that guess.

I'd be very pleased with Toub but it won't happen.

It will be a Pace guy as someone mentioned earlier. A Saints guy.

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It just dawned on me why I have seen so many firefox logos on twitter lately....

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Forgot about Toub. Mannelly was really talking him up last week. No nonsense guy.

Dear God, Toub would be such a god awful hire, it actually might happen considering it's "Da Bears".

Terrible, awful thought

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Perhaps we should get our heads out of our asses and follow the blueprint of Philly and the Rams, hiring an "offensive minded" head coach for their young QB...shit I thought Goff was a flat out bust, and McVeigh has saved him.



Dave fucking Toub..jesus Christ...

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Oh God please be true

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Dont really know much about this guy. What about him makes you want it to be true?

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If I had to guess, it would be because a Bears fan liked the idea.

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He has little coaching experience, the Pats defense isn't very good and I don't even know how much of that is him or Belichick, Belichick disciples have a history of failure when branching out(I know RFDC remembers the "great" Josh McDaniels). What's the case FOR hiring him?

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yeah FFs favorite coach McDaniels.

I actually wouldnt mind seeing him get the job. I think he is a pretty bright guy and another opportunity could be a good thing.

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I don't want to hire him. I was just being a smartass.

The Bears don't need a defensive head coach.

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I don't think I could have a guy named "Patricia" running my football team. Gay.