or 89 Wins!

No way this team ends up with 81 or 82 wins! I would be pissed if they end up with low 80's.

Ending with low 80's tells me that are not good and didn't trade the talent they had for anything. Thats how we endup with 81 wins.

I can accept a bad year. But get me some prospects.

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Im thinking it will be closer to the mid 70s. Its by no means a perfect indicator, but I assume the pitching has actually taken a big step back from last season, including losing Garland and the crapshoot that will be the bullpen. Hopefully Im wrong and they hit the heck out of the ball...

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Thats my point Hoff, we need this thing to be really good or really bad! I hear this 84 and 85 wins and I am just not excited.

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Somebody pull a Gilooly on Verlander's kneecap.

Then poison the Indian's clubhouse water cooler.



At least Santana he gone!

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They have a pretty good lineup and will hit the ball well, although I wish they had a better leadoff guy. Beurhle is a solid #1. Vasquez is an ok #2. As has been discussed the 3-4-5 guys arent great but I dont think they are horrible for 3-4-5 guys. If the bullpen is solid they will win 80 I think.

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Sox 80-82
Cub 83-79

Both miss the playoffs.

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Strangely enough, I agree. I have the Cub at 84 wins and the Sock at 81. No playoff for either. I am a Cub fan but I think the Sock have more of a chance to surprise. The Cub are picked by everyone to win a weak division, so anything less than 88-90 wins will be considered a failure. If the Sox can keep it close to .500 through mid season, they might rattle a Detroit or Cleveland.

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Cubs will win that division, Milwaukee has a so so bullpen last year, this year they a awful bullpen, I just dont see them being able to get past that. Cincy might be better, but they have injury prone players in Dunn, Griffey and Freel, so they will fall out by August. I aint saying the cubs will win it all, because I dont think they will, but they will win the central by 10 games or more.

The white sox I see more as a 85 win team and just like last year, they will do well against the central, but they just cant beat those east and west coast teams enough to make a dent against a stocked tiger and tribe team.

Overall, it should a fun summer.

Have they ever done that?

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Not in my life time, but this team is much better then the others in the central, I am just saying that I feel it will be easier to win the central this year.

I can't believe I am saying this but watch out for the Dusty factor in Cincy. Not that they will win, but he might get some of his players to believe his bullshit enough to contend through August.

IMO, no one in this division is good enough to win it by 10. I would be surprised if a team wins by five.

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Lets not forget, while the Cub won games when they needed to in Sepetmber, they had LOTS of help from thier friends in Milwaukee. The Brewers had a terrible September and lost that division moreso than the Cubs won it. Between August and September, the Brewers lost like 32 games, not exactly getting it done during crunch time.

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I understand that, but last year doesnt matter and the fact is the cubs are better and the rest, including the brewers got worse. Now of course things happen like injuries to key guys, but if it doesnt, the cubs will cruise in that division. Besides the horrible bullpen, their defense is so so at best, plus they a manager that makes terry bevington look good.

Trust me, I am not a bandwagon, koolaid drinking cub fan, I hate wrigley, I dislike most of the fans that go to the park and I predicted the cubs would get tossed by the dbacks last year, so this isnt cubbie love from me, I just dont see a good enough team to beat them. If they were in any other division, I would be predicting them for a 3rd palce finish, but they arent, so its their division to lose and I dont think they will.

Dusty has a pretty good record of getting his team to play ok in the honeymoon period, but has always had veteran laden teams in the past... the Reds are counting on the fast development of young pitchers, Cincy mgmt will not want to see any high pitch counts, it is entirely possible that some of Prior and Woods later arm trouble were due to Dusty regularly running them out there for 130+ pitches.

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Dusty also had BALCO becuase that GREAT Stretch magic was missing in 2004 when they lost 7 of the last 9 against weak teams.

Heard Bill James on Sirius yesterday giving his reasons for liking the Cubs to improve over last year.

1. Fukudome better than anything they had in RF last year even if he just hits singles and gets on base.
2. Soto much better defensively than anything they had last year.
3. Loves the depth of the bullpen, called it best in NL.
4. Likes the depth of starters, which he calls an underrated factor, becauase most teams use 7 to 8 different starters due to injury and usually the 7 or 8 guy has never started and does not do well.

So

03/30/2008 21:58:02 Wagered $1200.00 to win $1000.00 on OVER +87.5 Unsettled
TB 9 2008 CHICAGO (NATIONAL): TOTAL REGULAR SEASON GAMES WON 2008

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what is the difference between 90 wins and 2nd in the division vs. 79 wins and 2nd to last vs. 84 and in 3rd?

NOTHING!!!!

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False hope.

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I thought this was the poll results from the "favorite lesbian sexual positions" survey.

Since it's not, I take the White Sox at around 84 wins. Even if Contreras pitches well and Denks duplicates his level of play from last year, I just think the 5th starter spot is gonna keep them out of any real contention this year. Remember a few years ago when we tried every AAA and AA pitcher we had at the #5 spot? Arnie Munoz (or something like that) against the Expos. I still remember that game. Painful!

I also agree, though I like the Sox to win fewer than 80 games.

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I also agree, though I like the Sox to win fewer than 80 games and the Cubs to win more than 83 games and make the playoffs.

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I had predicted the White Sox to finish with about 77 wins. I just don't trust that rotation.