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The silver lining is that Pace didn't give up multiple draft picks to get him for no reason so he's learning!

:lol: Are we really excited to emulate the Chiefs offense ?

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No Andy Reid Tree coach has fell flat on their face. Some have been very, very good. Probably the worst was Childress who was at least serviceable for a time. Probably safest choice outside of Shurmer but perhaps more upside than Shurmer. This hire does make sense from Pace's perspective.

Childress unquestionably fell flat on his face. The Vikings arguably had the most offensive talent in the league for a time during his tenure there and he ran the most uncreative offense possible. He was also a gaping asshole who alienated nearly everyone on the team besides Jim Kleinsasser, who he kept running plays for despite having actually talented offensive players like Peterson, Moss, and Harvin on the team.


They nearly went to the Superbowl ...odd definition of "falling flat on your face".

The run certainly ended with him falling flat on his face. The George Ofman-looking Brad Childress unraveled after the NFCCG loss.

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I wonder if Nagy brings Mike Kafka with him from KC to be on staff.

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Hicks
Trevathan Probably his two best moves
Sitton Expensive and ouchy
Wright Potential is there, but the jury is still out
Amukamara He is a free agent
Jackson See Wright
Langford Not on the team anymore
Cohen Could be a good find if used correctly
Howard Clearly a workhorse, great pick
Goldman Pretty good
Floyd Could be very good, but needs to stay healthy
Kwiatkowski Fine as a back up and special teamer

He has made some good moves. Some were very good moves. I'm not sure the bad moves like Shaheen and White drop him down to what some of you seem to think.

Not a B. C, C+ at best. Clearly if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky works out, the grade jumps up quite a bit.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The silver lining is that Pace didn't give up multiple draft picks to get him for no reason so he's learning!

:lol: Are we really excited to emulate the Chiefs offense ?


Not their playoff offense.

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I wonder if Nagy brings Mike Kafka with him from KC to be on staff.

He'll try but get bogged down in layers upon layers of stultifying bureaucracy until he goes insane.

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After firing a coach in his 60s, more than 20 years his senior, Pace has hired a candidate just slightly younger than himself.

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Until Pederson all of Reid's offensive coaches either sucked when moving on or no other team wanted to hire them because they knew Reid was responsible for the success.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
IMU wrote:

Hicks
Trevathan Probably his two best moves
Sitton Expensive and ouchy
Wright Potential is there, but the jury is still out
Amukamara He is a free agent
Jackson See Wright
Langford Not on the team anymore
Cohen Could be a good find if used correctly
Howard Clearly a workhorse, great pick
Goldman Pretty good
Floyd Could be very good, but needs to stay healthy
Kwiatkowski Fine as a back up and special teamer

He has made some good moves. Some were very good moves. I'm not sure the bad moves like Shaheen and White drop him down to what some of you seem to think.

Not a B. C, C+ at best. Clearly if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky works out, the grade jumps up quite a bit.


Howard seems to be falling off already...might need to replace soon.

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Nas wrote:
Until Pederson all of Reid's offensive coaches either sucked when moving on or no other team wanted to hire them because they knew Reid was responsible for the success.


Chilly got the Vikings within one play of the Superbowl. This is just nonsense. The ending was bad, but they were quite successful for a period..
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Until Pederson all of Reid's offensive coaches either sucked when moving on or no other team wanted to hire them because they knew Reid was responsible for the success.


Chilly got the Vikings within one play of the Superbowl. This is just nonsense. The ending was bad, but they were quite successful for a period..


Was it him or Favre having a career year at 50?

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Is Mitch better / will be as good as Alex Smith ?

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Is Mitch better / will be as good as Alex Smith ?


I think he has more tools but Alex Smith has good intangibles.

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Never been a fan of hiring a guy with no head coaching experience.With that being said they need to make the playoffs in one of Paces last 3 years, and seeing the shit that made the playoffs this weekend it shouldn't be that tough should it?

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badrogue17 wrote:
Is Mitch better / will be as good as Alex Smith ?


Highly doubtful he even becomes as good as Matthew Stafford, and look what that's done for Detroit.

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Who was the Rooney rule interview ?

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Who was the Rooney rule interview ?


defilipo and fangio

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Who was the Rooney rule interview ?


It would be so Bears to fuck that up, considering they said Phillips was going to make sure they followed all the rules during the interview process.

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IMU wrote:

Hicks
Trevathan Probably his two best moves
Sitton Expensive and ouchy
Wright Potential is there, but the jury is still out
Amukamara He is a free agent
Jackson See Wright
Langford Not on the team anymore
Cohen Could be a good find if used correctly
Howard Clearly a workhorse, great pick
Goldman Pretty good
Floyd Could be very good, but needs to stay healthy
Kwiatkowski Fine as a back up and special teamer

He has made some good moves. Some were very good moves. I'm not sure the bad moves like Shaheen and White drop him down to what some of you seem to think.

Not a B. C, C+ at best. Clearly if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky works out, the grade jumps up quite a bit.


I know Langford isn't on the team anymore. It was still a good pick. He just found a better RB.

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This also seems to be Pace saying "Hey, the Rams hired a really young and inexperienced guy after firing a veteran coach and they had a great season so why don't I do the same!".

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This also seems to be Pace saying "Hey, the Rams hired a really young and inexperienced guy after firing a veteran coach and they had a great season so why don't I do the same!".


I concur.

He already had the seasoned pro.

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Who was the Rooney rule interview ?


It would be so Bears to fuck that up, considering they said Phillips was going to make sure they followed all the rules during the interview process.

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I know Langford isn't on the team anymore. It was still a good pick. He just found a better RB.
Langford had 0 NFL carries this year and even before getting injured he was on the practice squad.

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Never been a fan of hiring a guy with no head coaching experience.


I don't get the obsession with hiring someone who failed elsewhere...

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The silver lining is that Pace didn't give up multiple draft picks to get him for no reason so he's learning!

:lol: Are we really excited to emulate the Chiefs offense ?



I hope so.

5th in the league in total offense and they rely heavily on using a tight end.

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I don't get the obsession with hiring someone who failed elsewhere...

Agreed. Just like Fox and his experience

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The silver lining is that Pace didn't give up multiple draft picks to get him for no reason so he's learning!

:lol: Are we really excited to emulate the Chiefs offense ?



I hope so.

5th in the league in total offense and they rely heavily on using a tight end.


We have a big athletic target that was ignored this season.

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I don't get the obsession with hiring someone who failed elsewhere...

Agreed. Just like Fox and his experience


Most great coaches have failed somewhere.

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Nagy also made that offense go with a very mediocre group of WR's(Hill is good but kind of a one trick pony).
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