At least you're still cool with me

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Pssst. Hey Kid! You're not logged in under A. Bigot...

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I do. I think people with J.D.s are losers.

Don't worry Killer. I wasn't "in character" when I typed that.

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I voted YES based on the parameters that I mentioned above - in the sense that it tells me something about that person. But, it is not a judgement, so I probably should have voted NO.

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Can I change my vote?

I probably worded it too vaguely. I meant when you are in a room with a couple other people, and you know one has a masters degree and the other graduated high school, do you automatically assume the guy with the masters is smarter until proven otherwise, or do you consider them on the same plane until proven otherwise.

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ive lrnd that grls ho dont colege txt like this.

back to the point:
three resumes, 22 year old girls, same job, all hot.
one college degree, one two years at Junior College/Tech School, one h.s diploma.

who are you hiring?

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Hiring is different. The corporate world has already told us the girl with the college degree is the smarter, more responsible one. The safest hire.

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What's the job?

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“Mmmm. Move over, eggs. Bacon just got a new best friend - fudge.”

Duh!!!!
The one with the biggest tits.

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The girl with the h.s. diploma probably has the lowest self-esteem, so I'd go with her since only girls with low self-esteem will bang me.

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Are Costanza's twin brother?

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yeah...i'd go with the "dumb one" too.

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@audioidkid

Well, then I'm going to go all Bill Clinton on you and say how do you define "smart"?

To be truthful, I don't think of people as being "smart" or "dumb" in a black and white sense and haven't since I was an undergrad in college. People have different areas of expertise. One of my best friends was a horrible high school student, in all of the "special ed" classes, and he is a mechanical genius. I rely on him all the time to help me with stuff like that because he knows more about that than I do. I think he is very skilled in that area while lacking in some common sense. So, he would be both smart and dumb, as would I, depending on your perspective.

In your scenario, I might think a person with a Masters in Finance would know more about finance than the high school graduate but that would not make me think the HS grad is dumb by comparison. Also, that impression might be wrong, but that is a judgement I would make and that is why I voted YES.

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Well that goes back to Howard Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences, so what you are saying is all pretty accurate and fair. I think most people by now realize that people are intelligent in a variety of ways, but some people dont realize it. I think its fair to assume that Doug know more about engineering that I do, and Coast knows more about road/traffic laws.

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What Dr. Ken said....

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So does that that mean that GLaDOS knowledge of Portal, should preclude me from believing that he/she's a dumbass.

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I don't know if "assume" is the right word, but "expect" would be. Why wouldn't you think that someone with a masters degree is smarter until proven otherwise?

If you give 100 people with a masters degree pretty much any test that measures intelligence(spacial, knowledge of a wide variety of subjects, math, history, etc) they would score higher on average. I wouldn't necessarily think someone who only graduated from high school is dumb but I would think that a college graduate is smarter because they have shown their intelligence at an accredited institution.

I would be quick to change my opinion if the high school graduate was able to display his knowledge or if the person with a masters degree was able to show that he is in fact a dumbass.

If I knew someone played college athletics, I would expect them to be a better athlete than I am. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't be willing to change that opinion once I see what he actually has. If I knew someone was a classically trained musician I would expect them to be a better musician than someone who has little to no training. Once I heard them play, it would have a very small bearing on my opinion.

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I think you are confusing knowledge with intelligence. They arent necessarily synonmous. Although this goes back to what Dr. Ken was saying about different intelligences. Just because someone knows advanced calculus doesnt necessarily mean they are smarter than someone who doesnt. Same if someone knows the capital of Hungary and someone else doesnt. It just means they have more knowledge in those areas, although that assumption could easily be wrong also. I wouldnt expect someone with a Masters degree to be smarter than someone with a HS diploma, although theres a good chance they are more "educated".

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I've never stopped them at the door to ask them for a green card (though one of them showed it to me at one point).

So everyone is "smart" in their own way. Everyone gets a participation ribbon.

Group hug!!

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I never said they were synonymous, but a person who is able to accomplish the requirements for a college degree, including english, math, foreign language, basic science, and whole slew of different electives in varying fields while also taking advanced courses in their major has shown that they have a wide variety of mental capabilities in many different subjects.

I don't know if a person with a high school diploma was smart enough to graduate college. I do however know that a person with a college diploma is smart enough to graduate college and also spent 4-5 years studying in many fields at a post high school level. They have shown that at least for a short period of time that they are able to master a subject enough to pass.

This line is slightly blurred by master's degrees and other postgraduate studies because they get a lot more refined to certain areas.

The bottom line is that a college graduate has proved themselves more than a non college graduate. It doesn't mean that the other couldn't have but when you have very little information to go on to make an initial stance then you have to go with what you can. You are talking about initial reactions. Once you get to know someone and have more information on them then things can change.

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Thats fair. I dont really look at it that way but theres no problem in doing so.

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I think if you have some sort of degree or certification, it basically means that you "can be trained" in an employers eyes.
There is a value associated with education when it comes to typically white collar or technical positions.

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Going to college versus not going doesn't show me anything. I'd need to know why you didn't go to college and why you did. Most people go to college in the hopes that they'll be able to get a better job at better pay. However, a large portion of people go to college with zero direction. They just go because "that's what you're supposed to do". If you have no interest in a career and you wanna blow $100K on a college education because you think it'll increase your chance of getting a job, then I think that's moronic and you are therefore a moron...even with the degree.
Doing smart things makes you a smart person, school doesn't.

I agree with your logic. I would also point out that the average white person is more likely to be a college graduate than the average black person is. Similarly, a person from a wealthy family is more likely to be a college graduate than a person from a poor family. Would it make sense to assume, then, that the average white person is smarter than the average black person, or that the average wealthy person is smarter than the average poor one?

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I was joking before but based on this discussion, someone would need to define "smart" then.

If smart means you have more general knowledge about many different things, then someone who has gone to college is likely to be smarter than someone who hasn't. I would consider that "educated" rather than "smart".

If smart is an intrinsic characteristic about one's ability to learn or understand concepts presented to them, then formal education is irrelevant.

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