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Dislike of the NBA isn't all about race though. Its not for everyone. Nothing in life is for everyone.
Dude only a couple people said they don't like the NBA. The initial point of yours was that regular season NBA talk was more interesting than offseason NFL talk. It's not.



Why do people have to admit to anything for it to be fact on here? Can't we simply deploy the inferential skills of JLN to figure it out?


If i actively sought it i'd have no problem finding at least 25 30 posters that hate the shit out of the NBA talk on the Score. Please don't give me the quality of the content bullshit either. They hate the fact that the NBA is even discussed.

Think about the people in this section alone that have chosen to let the world know that "no one gives a shit about the NBA". 2nd most popular sport in this country.

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Dislike of the NBA isn't all about race though. Its not for everyone. Nothing in life is for everyone.
Dude only a couple people said they don't like the NBA. The initial point of yours was that regular season NBA talk was more interesting than offseason NFL talk. It's not.
Why do people have to admit to anything for it to be fact on here? Can't we simply deploy the inferential skills of JLN to figure it out?

If i actively sought it i'd have no problem finding at least 25 30 posters that hate the shit out of the NBA talk on the Score. Please don't give me the quality of the content bullshit either. They hate the fact that the NBA is even discussed.

Think about the people in this section alone that have chosen to let the world know that "no one gives a shit about the NBA". 2nd most popular sport in this country.
This entire post is irrelevant to my post that you quoted.

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It takes minimum 10 dissenters in order to debate me CB. Where i'm from we call that "coming deep" for a person.

That is actually how i know it has legs.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Dislike of the NBA isn't all about race though. Its not for everyone. Nothing in life is for everyone.
Dude only a couple people said they don't like the NBA. The initial point of yours was that regular season NBA talk was more interesting than offseason NFL talk. It's not.
Why do people have to admit to anything for it to be fact on here? Can't we simply deploy the inferential skills of JLN to figure it out?

If i actively sought it i'd have no problem finding at least 25 30 posters that hate the shit out of the NBA talk on the Score. Please don't give me the quality of the content bullshit either. They hate the fact that the NBA is even discussed.

Think about the people in this section alone that have chosen to let the world know that "no one gives a shit about the NBA". 2nd most popular sport in this country.
This entire post is irrelevant to my post that you quoted.



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No matter how obnoxious the poster might be, LTG would take him on. You beat LTG with google links, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a conjecture, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun, you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back and back until one of you is dead.



It takes minimum 10 dissenters in order to debate me CB. Where i'm from we call that "coming deep" for a person.

That is actually how i know it has legs.


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I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Is it "people who say they don't like the NBA without watching more than a few minutes in the past 15 years are racist"?

Is it "people who say they don't want to listen to national NBA talk on the radio are racist"?

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The evidence that i can't produce is that of you ever condemning racists dumbass.


http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2906486

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2906517

Shut. Your. Mouth.


Not once have condemned a person on here for posting racist comments. Ever.


http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2789291

Shut. Your. Fucking. Mouth.

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You really had to scramble to get that one in didn't you?

I must missed all of the times that you condemned Beardown for all of the racist shit that he posted?



Shifting the goalposts. I don't want to hear any more talk of racism or not condoning racism from you, ever. You asked for evidence and you got it. I win, shut your mouth about me in that regard.



Those really weren't condemnations and it also doesn't apply to those that post on this site. My original point related specifically to that. Not surprising that you'd take it out of context.

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I find it very odd that some people get more upset over Beardown pointing out the obvious obsession that certain hosts have with race than they do with black women being referred to as "wildebeests".

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No matter how obnoxious the poster might be, LTG would take him on. You beat LTG with google links, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a conjecture, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun, you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back and back until one of you is dead.



It takes minimum 10 dissenters in order to debate me CB. Where i'm from we call that "coming deep" for a person.

That is actually how i know it has legs.
There is nothing to debate. You are coming across as a complete lunatic in this thread. You started with one absurd thought, now somehow its a race debate. Your initial premise was way off and you have done nothing to prove otherwise. You couldn't even post that the NFL is the most popular sports league in this country. You started talking about basketball in China, and your 1990s sportsradio listening habits, Beardown, and God knows what else.

None of that changes the fact that in the Chicago sports radio market, offseason NFL talk is going to move more meters than regular season national NBA talk. You do not have to like this, but it is a fact. Deal with it.

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I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Is it "people who say they don't like the NBA without watching more than a few minutes in the past 15 years are racist"?

Is it "people who say they don't want to listen to national NBA talk on the radio are racist"?


It's about LTG taking on everyone and still standing! Poor Frank..get him out!
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I find it very odd that some people get more upset over Beardown pointing out the obvious obsession that certain hosts have with race than they do with black women being referred to as "wildebeests".


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I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Is it "people who say they don't like the NBA without watching more than a few minutes in the past 15 years are racist"?

Is it "people who say they don't want to listen to national NBA talk on the radio are racist"?



My essential point is that the NFL doesn't possess the same level of nationwide interest as the NBA at the moment.

With that being case why are they talking football and not the NBA?

Why are the people here excusing the fact that it is out of town. These are the same hyoocrites that constsntly bitch and moan about out of town vs local yet when it is a sport and a guy they like they are all good with it. That is my point.

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My essential point is that the NFL doesn't possess the same level of nationwide interest as the NBA at the moment.

With that being case why are they talking football and not the NBA?
This is wrong. If this really was the case, than B&G would still be on the air in the afternoon.
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Why are the people here excusing the fact that it is out of town.
Because it is about a sport more people like. This is very simple.

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But hockey is exciting?

2nd most popular sport in this country. Fastest growing sport in this country.

Sport with the youngest demographic group in this country.

Reverting back to your orginal premise for thread. This is a big reason why it isn't discussed on AM radio but has MANY podcasts. This demo isn't tuning into AM radio no matter the topic.


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Shifting the goalposts. I don't want to hear any more talk of racism or not condoning racism from you, ever. You asked for evidence and you got it. I win, shut your mouth about me in that regard.



Those really weren't condemnations and it also doesn't apply to those that post on this site. My original point related specifically to that. Not surprising that you'd take it out of context.


"I've never seen you condemn racism!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I've never seen you condemn racism from a poster on the board!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I meant....another poster! Stop taking my demands out of context!"

Go pound sand.


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I find it very odd that some people get more upset over Beardown pointing out the obvious obsession that certain hosts have with race than they do with black women being referred to as "wildebeests".


That comment is a problem but Bernstein doesn't post here. Beardown does and posts racist shit all the time but its "just Beardown being Beardown". Also the same group that trots out the Anti Semitic tag at a moments notice were really quite accepting of the bullshit that he spews.

Criticize Israel and you're an Anti Semite. State that Goff was an Affirmative Action hire and you are what exactly? No one knows because he was rarely if ever called on it.

This aint about anyone being a victim either. This is about what is and isn't tolerated.

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Shifting the goalposts. I don't want to hear any more talk of racism or not condoning racism from you, ever. You asked for evidence and you got it. I win, shut your mouth about me in that regard.



Those really weren't condemnations and it also doesn't apply to those that post on this site. My original point related specifically to that. Not surprising that you'd take it out of context.


"I've never seen you condemn racism!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I've never seen you condemn racism from a poster on the board!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I meant....another poster! Stop taking my demands out of context!"

Go pound sand.


You still haven't condemned it. Your antennae is only pointed at those that broach the issue of racism.

You are always Johnny on the spot for those sort of discussions.

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I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Is it "people who say they don't like the NBA without watching more than a few minutes in the past 15 years are racist"?

Is it "people who say they don't want to listen to national NBA talk on the radio are racist"?



My essential point is that the NFL doesn't possess the same level of nationwide interest as the NBA at the moment.

With that being case why are they talking football and not the NBA?

Why are the people here excusing the fact that it is out of town. These are the same hyoocrites that constsntly bitch and moan about out of town vs local yet when it is a sport and a guy they like they are all good with it. That is my point.


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The last show did talk NBA (both local and OOT) and it was met with a resounding thud. I for one didn't mind it and hardly ever PTFB because of the NBA talk but I can understand why a lot of people did and I don't think it was anything related to the race of the athletes playing the sport in question nor the race of the host of the show (Goffer). Rather, as another poster pointed out and I forget who, it was the style of NBA talk that failed B&G. Most NBA discussons ended up becoming a verbal masturbation of whatever Lebron did the night before followed by subtle shots at those on "the wrong side of history" in the Lebron/MJ debate. The substance of discussion by B&G left a lot to be desired and so did their quality of NBA guests. You yourself said you thought B&G did a poor job discussing the NBA (national and otherwise) so I am not sure where this all became a referendum on race and not just a show that failed to capture their target audience.


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but Bernstein doesn't post here. Beardown does .


Great point, but consider the source..."Cowboy Joe"..he doesn't like to view things, "In-Context" as you have seen from him dumb ass gun threads.


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I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

Is it "people who say they don't like the NBA without watching more than a few minutes in the past 15 years are racist"?

Is it "people who say they don't want to listen to national NBA talk on the radio are racist"?



My essential point is that the NFL doesn't possess the same level of nationwide interest as the NBA at the moment.

With that being case why are they talking football and not the NBA?

Why are the people here excusing the fact that it is out of town. These are the same hyoocrites that constsntly bitch and moan about out of town vs local yet when it is a sport and a guy they like they are all good with it. That is my point.


Thank you.

I think I would agree with your first statement in general. However, I don't know that I would agree with it as it relates to sports radio listenership. Particularly in Chicago.

I wonder if anyone (JLN or CH) knows what tv ratings are now for NFL Network vs. NBA Network. Just for shits and giggles.

From my listening to the Score and ESPN, prolonged out of town anything never did real well. It didn't generate calls and would rely on hosts driving the segment.

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All that being said LTG, Parkin's NBA thought's are horrific, have you heard them? He argued, as fact mind you, that a Finals repeat of GS/Cleveland would be better than Toronto making it. Full stop.


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All that being said LTG, Parkin's NBA thought's are horrific, have you heard them? He argued, as fact mind you, that a Finals repeat of GS/Cleveland would be better than Toronto making it. Full stop.


Better how?

Better ratings? Because he's right.

Better for the league? Eh. That's debatable.

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All that being said LTG, Parkin's NBA thought's are horrific, have you heard them? He argued, as fact mind you, that a Finals repeat of GS/Cleveland would be better than Toronto making it. Full stop.


Better how?

Better ratings? Because he's right.

Better for the league? Eh. That's debatable.


Nobody wants to see the same shit again.


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Shifting the goalposts. I don't want to hear any more talk of racism or not condoning racism from you, ever. You asked for evidence and you got it. I win, shut your mouth about me in that regard.



Those really weren't condemnations and it also doesn't apply to those that post on this site. My original point related specifically to that. Not surprising that you'd take it out of context.


"I've never seen you condemn racism!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I've never seen you condemn racism from a poster on the board!"

[Evidence to the contrary is posted]

"I meant....another poster! Stop taking my demands out of context!"

Go pound sand.


You still haven't condemned it. Your antennae is only pointed at those that broach the issue of racism.

You are always Johnny on the spot for those sort of discussions.


So now I have to explain how bad racism is every time I call something racist?

Which crane company do you have on retainer to pick up and move those goalposts every time you show your ass in a thread here?


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All that being said LTG, Parkin's NBA thought's are horrific, have you heard them? He argued, as fact mind you, that a Finals repeat of GS/Cleveland would be better than Toronto making it. Full stop.


Better how?

Better ratings? Because he's right.

Better for the league? Eh. That's debatable.


Nobody wants to see the same shit again.


MANY more people will watch when it's the best 2 teams than will watch to see an upstart Raptors team.

Basketball fans who were already going to watch would. But that's it.

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All that being said LTG, Parkin's NBA thought's are horrific, have you heard them? He argued, as fact mind you, that a Finals repeat of GS/Cleveland would be better than Toronto making it. Full stop.


Better how?

Better ratings? Because he's right.

Better for the league? Eh. That's debatable.


Nobody wants to see the same shit again.


MANY more people will watch when it's the best 2 teams than will watch to see an upstart Raptors team.

Basketball fans who were already going to watch would. But that's it.
ABC bosses are rooting against Toronto making the Finals.

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I find it very odd that some people get more upset over Beardown pointing out the obvious obsession that certain hosts have with race than they do with black women being referred to as "wildebeests".


That comment is a problem but Bernstein doesn't post here. Beardown does and posts racist shit all the time but its "just Beardown being Beardown". Also the same group that trots out the Anti Semitic tag at a moments notice were really quite accepting of the bullshit that he spews.

Criticize Israel and you're an Anti Semite. State that Goff was an Affirmative Action hire and you are what exactly? No one knows because he was rarely if ever called on it.

This aint about anyone being a victim either. This is about what is and isn't tolerated.



I don't think it's fair to call Beardown's posts racist. They're simply a commentary on the way race is a focal point of particular shows. "Big Black Studs". "Wildebeests". "I hate 'white basketball'." "Slow, tiny, and white." And on and on. Are you saying that you don't notice? That somehow Beardown is imagining something that isn't there?

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I don't think it's fair to call Beardown's posts racist.
He probably has Beardown and badrogue confused.

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I don't think it's fair to call Beardown's posts racist.
He probably has Beardown and badrogue confused.


Sure I am.

He sure got a lot of pushback for this racist shit here didn't he?

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