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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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And he didnt cost them 3 runs. The ball that got by was a clean hit and getting a run in no matter what.

It seems those ragging about that triple weren't watching the game, yet they somehow decided they knew to a certainty what happened. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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He's a butcher, worst out fielder I've ever seen..I'll be 40 in few months.

:lol: Terrible thought.

Eh....Im trying to think of a worse regular outfielder. He's pretty bad.

Oh he is bad, no doubt. The worst a 40 yr old guy has ever seen?

Sounds right to me. He's pretty bad.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
And he didnt cost them 3 runs. The ball that got by was a clean hit and getting a run in no matter what.

It seems those ragging about that triple weren't watching the game, yet they somehow decided they knew to a certainty what happened. :roll:

Sounds like a B & B show thread .

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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rogers park bryan wrote:
And he didnt cost them 3 runs. The ball that got by was a clean hit and getting a run in no matter what.

It seems those ragging about that triple weren't watching the game, yet they somehow decided they knew to a certainty what happened. :roll:

Sounds like a B & B show thread .

Remember when Ogie thought there was four Schwarber fuckups but there was only three?

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d


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badrogue17 wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
And he didnt cost them 3 runs. The ball that got by was a clean hit and getting a run in no matter what.

It seems those ragging about that triple weren't watching the game, yet they somehow decided they knew to a certainty what happened. :roll:

Sounds like a B & B show thread .

Remember when Ogie thought there was four Schwarber fuckups but there was only three?


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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d

defensive sabermetics are bullshit and completely useless. They have their place for offense though

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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So if defense doesn't matter at LF, does it matter at 1B? Asking for a Cuban friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d

defensive sabermetics are bullshit and completely useless. They have their place for offense though

Until they can be used against a Cubs player you mean .

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Agreed to a point. In Davis's case he has an epically bad throw. 15% of the balls rolling in front of him turn into doubles. But almost 50% of base runners take a second base running on Davis.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagr ... ris-davis/


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So if defense doesn't matter at LF, does it matter at 1B? Asking for a Cuban friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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badrogue17 wrote:
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TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d

defensive sabermetics are bullshit and completely useless. They have their place for offense though

Until they can be used against a Cubs player you mean .

Yep. If Schwarber played for any other team he would not be considered the worst OF in the last 40 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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Yep. If Schwarber played for any other team he would not be considered the worst OF in the last 40 years.

At least he has that going for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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312 might be 40 years old, but he also posted that his favorite snacks are Lunchables so take what he says with a grain of salt.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d


Isn't that a cumulative stat? Wasn't he in the minors for a good bit of time and then came up to play only in favorable matchups?

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A clear headed Theo would have moved the guy but he is in love so his mind is all messed up.

I thought Schwarber looked better in the OF as a rookie than he does today.

Remember those days of him being an MLB catcher?

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312 might be 40 years old, but he also posted that his favorite snacks are Lunchables so take what he says with a grain of salt.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.


That's only true because left is a place to hide a bad fielder with a big stick. It doesn't really make sense when we're talking about a guy who hits .210 with .315 OBP.

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A clear headed Theo would have moved the guy but he is in love so his mind is all messed up.

I thought Schwarber looked better in the OF as a rookie than he does today.

Remember those days of him being an MLB catcher?

Caller Bob's favorite meme about his power came from a legitimate discussion about Sale for Schwarber. :lol:

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TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.


That's only true because left is a place to hide a bad fielder with a big stick. It doesn't really make sense when we're talking about a guy who hits .210 with .315 OBP.


That's a rarity. I non troll post! Can't argue with that except he did slug enough to make his line respectable, but I do expect more from that position.

But the debate before us claimed he was the absolute worst defensive outfielder in 40 years. Let's pick our arguments here fellas, its only opening day.


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RFDC wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
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TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d

defensive sabermetics are bullshit and completely useless. They have their place for offense though

Until they can be used against a Cubs player you mean .

Yep. If Schwarber played for any other team he would not be considered the worst OF in the last 40 years.

:lol:

312 is a Cub fan who dislikes the Sox.

It's great how defensive Cub fans get over Schwarber sucking though.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.

Your 2017 leftfielders with over 450 ABs, schwarber has a defensive war of -1.6. That is good for 8th best of the 24 players on the list.

Last place with -20.6 is Khris Davis

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=20,d

defensive sabermetics are bullshit and completely useless. They have their place for offense though

They are not completely useless.

Defensive WAR is close to useless, but UZR and other stuff is anything but.


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 Post subject: Re: Kyle Schwarber
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New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.


That's only true because left is a place to hide a bad fielder with a big stick. It doesn't really make sense when we're talking about a guy who hits .210 with .315 OBP.


That's a rarity. I non troll post! Can't argue with that except he did slug enough to make his line respectable, but I do expect more from that position.

But the debate before us claimed he was the absolute worst defensive outfielder in 40 years. Let's pick our arguments here fellas, its only opening day.


I often defended Soriano from Cub fans who hated his defense when he was actually the best regular left fielder in the game.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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New flash, left fielders are bad at defense.


That's only true because left is a place to hide a bad fielder with a big stick. It doesn't really make sense when we're talking about a guy who hits .210 with .315 OBP.

I think everyone agrees if he hits like he did over the whole of last year he's definitely not making up for it.

If he is more like his 2015 and the second half of 2017 with the 330-350 obp and 500 slugging, then he may be worth it.


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A well regulated outfield, being necessary to the security of another world series title, the right of the fans to want to trade Schwarber shall not be infringed.


Outfield positions were designed back in the 1880s!! Back then only 7 guys could hit a ball to the warning track and minorities werent even allowed to play!! The outfield needs to be re-examined and determined if it is really necessary in todays game.

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He's a butcher, worst out fielder I've ever seen..I'll be 40 in few months.

:lol: Terrible thought.

Eh....Im trying to think of a worse regular outfielder. He's pretty bad.

Oh he is bad, no doubt. The worst a 40 yr old guy has ever seen?

Name one worse in that period

Dave Kingman?

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