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They lack power thus Who gives a fuck? Their insignificant ass do not really possess the economic or political wherewithal to exact damage on Jewish people so essentially all they have are bad feelings towards them.


Are you attempting to make a case against the concept of "institutional racism"? Because that's what it sounds like.

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This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history.


I don't know what is going on around here. Without weighing in on the merits of CH's comment, I know for a fact that he cares more about social justice and equity in our society than most.


I'd generally agree. But this thread has disintegrated into something pretty offputting and personality driven.

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He stated that blacks hold anti Semitic views and their anti semitism is viewed differently from other forms of anti semitism. In essence it is viewed differently because (i.e more favorable or ignored) because blacks are the ones who are the perpetrators. They lack power thus Who gives a fuck? Their insignificant ass do not really possess the economic or political wherewithal to exact damage on Jewish people so essentially all they have are bad feelings towards them. This form of anti semitism is distinguishable from other forms and hence a "black thing".

There is all type of bigotry and racially promoted stereotypes in what he typed.


I don't have the same interpretation as you. I might be wrong but that doesn't make me a bigot, hypocrite, or complicit.


No I'm not implying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly wondering how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray regarding Hymietown as one of bigotry while ignoring comments regarding "black thing".

I haven't really addressed the presumption regarding the notion that there is some widespread black Anti Semitic movement in this country either.

As far as Jewish racism if (I wanted to drudge down that path) I'd simply have to look no further than our esteemed Mayor. I'm not much interested in that because it is irrelevant to the decision. There is a strong case to be made regarding him and racism.

I'm merely focusing on the comments regarding blacks being anti Semitic. That is where my focus happens to be. Those charges are unfounded and baseless.

It is inherently stereotypical for anyone to claim that Jesse or Louis Farrakhan are the voices for the black community. THat is the other thing that came from this too. It belittles African Americans to think this way. We don't exist in a monolith.

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


First of all unless Anti Semitism is exclusively a "black thing" then it is a slur. Blacks do not have a strong voice in the Anti Semitic movement. It is first and foremost a false claim. Then it made the presumption that blacks are envious of Jewish wealth. How would anyone know that. There are stereotypes and baseless claims made throughout that particular statement.


Explain to me how Anti Semitism is necessarily a "black thing" then?

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.

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This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history.


I don't know what is going on around here. Without weighing in on the merits of CH's comment, I know for a fact that he cares more about social justice and equity in our society than most.


I'd generally agree. But this thread has disintegrated into something pretty offputting and personality driven.

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The other part of this which I haven't really bothered to expound on was the bullshit regarding blacks not voting for Sanders because he is Jewish. How about that? Let's start spinning from the same group that continuously spins every fucking thing. Is that bigoted ass JLN going to request his ever present "proof" regarding this statement or is he going to accept it as the gospel (as he always does) when blacks are involved?



Interesting how the same people that argued the claim that Trump support was based on race have no problem making assumptions as to why blacks in the South didn't vote for Sanders. Must have been because he was Jewish. YOu look up and down this fucking thread and you see a number of stereotypical, biased views expressed. If we are going to have an honest dialogue then lets have an honest dialogue.

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Farrakhan only exists to appease the extremes on each side.

I can't remember the last time most took him seriously. But that thinking got us trump.


How many Twitter followers does a Jew-hater need to be taken seriously?

Twitter followers? This guy has high ranking Congressmen and leaders of marches which get millions to show up supporting him and scared to criticize him. If he is so powerless, then why can't they simply condemn him and cut ties with him.

The real answer is that black antisemitism is seen as separate from and less pernicious than European antisemitism, and thus less necessary to condemn. Blacks who hate Jews because of slumlords or slave merchants haven't carried out exiles, pogroms, or genocides as a result, and even if they wanted to, they've never had the power to do so, so it's handwaved away and more or less left alone as one of those black things outsiders can't understand, like those NBA jackets that have every team's logo on them. The fact that southern blacks all but refused to vote for a Jew in the Democratic primaries was something the media superficially acknowledged without ever exploring, and I wish they had explored it and laid this issue bare.



"Superficially acknowledged". Ok. Maybe the reason that they didn't explore it was because there wasn't anything to explore. "outsiders can't understand". Who in the hell are the outsiders? So no one other than blacks understand the Logos on NBA jackets? "Laying the issue bare"? What in the fuck is this exactly?

This is some rather contrived bullshit meant to imply that blacks are engaged in a wide spread Anti Semitic movement.

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.


I don't think there is an anti-Semitic "movement" in the United States.

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What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
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And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?


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Can you explain why?



What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
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And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?


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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.


I don't think there is an anti-Semitic "movement" in the United States.


I tend to believe there's a good segment of that group in the MAGA! crowd

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Can you explain why?



What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
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And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?



I never referred to you as being racist. Nor Do I think we ever started. I made this point to suggest that there isn't a black Anti semitic movement in this country. Up til this point no one has provided any evidence to the contrary. It wasn't the best example but using Farrakkan as the example of Black anti semitism is weak.

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Can you explain why?



What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
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And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?


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I'm sure that the part regarding Southern black vote being inherently Anti Semitic will also be Racked

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leashyourkids wrote:
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Can you explain why?



What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
.

And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?


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I'm sure that the part regarding Southern black vote being inherently Anti Semitic will also be Racked


As you might recall, I actually did argue against that in a recent thread.

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.


I don't think there is an anti-Semitic "movement" in the United States.

Not like there is in other countries where they have pogroms and disenfranchisement and so forth. There was exclusion earlier, and there are lots of memoirs about Jewish people getting picked on for being the Jewish kid, but I'd have a hard time believing that such a movement exists.

The only Jewish movement I have personally seen was the Jewish movement away from the South Side.


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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.


I don't think there is an anti-Semitic "movement" in the United States.

Not like there is in other countries where they have pogroms and disenfranchisement and so forth. There was exclusion earlier, and there are lots of memoirs about Jewish people getting picked on for being the Jewish kid, but I'd have a hard time believing that such a movement exists.

The only Jewish movement I have personally seen was the Jewish movement away from the South Side.


Wow... Tommy with the shot at the Jews.

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Can you explain why?



What the hell is a "black thing"?

2. Where is this big black movement involving Anti Semitism? Blacks do not have a hatred of Jewish people. That is pure bullshit. A number of my friends are in fact members of the Hebrew Israelites.
.

And a number of my friends are black, so....I guess....we're done here?


Rack ‘em!



I'm sure that the part regarding Southern black vote being inherently Anti Semitic will also be Racked


As you might recall, I actually did argue against that in a recent thread.


You didn't specifically address the part about Southern black voting. That was some stereotypical, biased bullshit.

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No I'm not applying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray the Hymietown comment as bigoted yet ignore comments regarding "black thing".


It's difficult to understand what you're saying. "Hymietown" is an obvious slur. "A Black Thing" is clearly not, as it's worn on t-shits and promoted by black people themselves. Are you suggesting that it's okay for a black person to say "The NBA is a black league" but not okay for a white person to say the same? And why would that be the case since "everybody knows it"?


The NBA is dominated by black players. Blacks don't have any sort of voice in the Anti Semitic movement. If you want to throw Farrakkan in then do it. Still a minimal voice. Trump's voice is much stronger among racists yet people on here have repeatedly stated that his voice or theirs carries no role. This is utter bullshit.


If blacks were dominant in the Anti Semitic movement then the point would be valid. It isn't.


I don't think there is an anti-Semitic "movement" in the United States.

Not like there is in other countries where they have pogroms and disenfranchisement and so forth. There was exclusion earlier, and there are lots of memoirs about Jewish people getting picked on for being the Jewish kid, but I'd have a hard time believing that such a movement exists.

The only Jewish movement I have personally seen was the Jewish movement away from the South Side.


Wow... Tommy with the shot at the Jews.

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Yeah, and you know why?

Because I didn’t want to be accused of speaking for black people or of being patronizing.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:39 pm 
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?

THis may take awhile.

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