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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:12 pm 
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He's been asking this question.

If the Sox had a one run lead, would he put Floyd out there for the ninth? Mac says the best option is to go to Jenks cuz it's the best chance for your team to win.

Mac, I saw Ozzie's post game comments on Comcast. They asked him that. He said he was going with him until the no hitter was over. There is your answer.


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While it would be hard to take the kid out, it Ozzie knew he had nothing left in the tank, he has to yank him...seems to me a certain Cardinals pitcher had a similar situation at the Cell a few years back and Thome ended up belting one out in the ninth to break up the no no and win the game...

edit: nevermind...it was in the seventh...


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I think Mac was trying to generate phone calls asking a question like that.The fans would off called for Ozzie's head if he pulled the kid and I would think the players would of been pretty pissed at Ozzie as well and besides it was a regular season game not the 7th game of a playoff series.


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I know what Mac is doing STU. I just thought he also didn't know what Ozzie would do. I just thought I'd tell him that Ozzie answered this question on Saturday. He was going to leave him in there.


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Thumbs down to me for not knowing Oz said that. I stand by my conviction. I'll take a win over a divisional foe over a "special moment" and day. One run lead? Cold day in April> Two words: Bobby Jenks.


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The right move isn't always the most popular one. If the score is still 1-0 in the top of the 9th Saturday, Jenks pitches regardless of how many hits the Tigers had.

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The right move isn't always the most popular one. If the score is still 1-0 in the top of the 9th Saturday, Jenks pitches regardless of how many hits the Tigers had.


Ozzie already said thats not the case. Its April, not September, and with the way the Tigers have been hitting I'd leave Floyd in and let him get a shot at it. Who knows the next time he'll get a shot like that.

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Thumbs down to me for not knowing Oz said that. I stand by my conviction. I'll take a win over a divisional foe over a "special moment" and day. One run lead? Cold day in April> Two words: Bobby Jenks.


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I see the reasoning behind both moves, and would not have been bothered by Floyd or Jenks pitching the 9th.

Its moot though. They won the game and thats all that matters.

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Its moot though.

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It is early in the season and pitchers are not fully stretched out. That makes it tough to leave a guy who has thrown 115 pitches already in, especially on a cold day. However, I would have to give the kid a chance for the no no, and leave him in until he gave up a hit. It's probably something that fosters better relationships between manager and pitcher-giving the pitcher a chance for immortality. Fot most guys to get in the H.O.F. by throwing a no-hitter, is their only opportunity. Heck, just look at Milt Pappas, Burt Hooten and other local guys. The team comes first, but years ago guys would throw 150-200 pitches in a game and that was with a 4 man rotation. Pitchers get babied too much today. It seems like years ago they had fewer injuries, even though they threw many more pitches and innings.

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If this scenario happened to a pitcher on the Cubs (i.e. Hill), I would want the manager to let him pitch until the no-no was ended.

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The right move isn't always the most popular one. If the score is still 1-0 in the top of the 9th Saturday, Jenks pitches regardless of how many hits the Tigers had.

I understand that Jenks is your closer, but who is to say that Jenks doesn't give up a gopher ball the first pitch he throws. Let Floyd continue to throw. Like Steve already said, that could have been his only chance at immortality.


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