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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:18 pm 
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Have to hand it to Rick. He gets haymakers lobbed at him by the best. FF really sent him some messages. He just gets up dusts off and starts over like it never happened.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:19 pm 
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I think the only acceptable solution here is to have Brick live outside of the suburbs for at least 5 years.

Btw, it's about to be 830pm. Brick will be unavailable until about 7am for anyone wondering.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:20 pm 
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I dunno. Seems like their leadership is a bunch of crybabies setting the tone for their members.


What are we talking about .... Trumpets? NRA members? Clinton-ites? JDC followers? The CSFMB?


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:21 pm 
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So everyone who has shot a gun to "send a message" should be interrogated by the FBI and subjected to mental health examinations. Good luck writing that law.

It's almost as if the concept of "missed warning signs" is useless and only serves to distract from the real issues?

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:27 pm 
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The Right of the People to Bear Arms shall not be infringed, except when they have previously used firearms to "send a message."*

"Send a message" will be unilaterally defined by an overzealous and hyperbolic local Chicago sports radio message board poster.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:28 pm 
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The Right of the People to Bear Arms shall not be infringed, except when they have previously used firearms to "send a message."*

"Send a message" will be unilaterally defined by an overzealous and hyperbolic local Chicago sports radio message board poster.


Isn’t he non local? Otherwise golf clap.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:31 pm 
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Warning signs in parkland was a guy saying he dreamed of being a school shooter. Holding a gun to the heads of others. Violent outbursts, fights, obsessions with hurting people. He said he was going to hurt people. The cops were called on him dozens of times.
Equating that to a guy shooting his cooler is positively, down right stupid. Its embarrassing to even read this nonsense. I get that brick wants to troll people and just be generally disagreeable. Such is his right. But he sounds like a straight up buffoon.
Sorry brick but even you know you're either way out of line or just fucking with people simply for the pleasure of fucking with people.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:32 pm 
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I think Rick is mentioning warning signs in regards to the YouTube shooting.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:39 pm 
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I think Rick is mentioning warning signs in regards to the YouTube shooting.

Warning signs like disappearing without a trace for the first time in her history, the family calling law enforcement because they were worried about her mental status and welfare, family members calling the cops because she Expressed extreme feelings of anger at YouTube, her saying she was going to YouTube because she "hated the company", things like that?

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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I don't know.

You'd have to ask him.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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I don't know.

You'd have to ask him.


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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leashyourkids wrote:
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I don't know.

You'd have to ask him.


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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The Right of the People to Bear Arms shall not be infringed, except when they have previously used firearms to "send a message."*

"Send a message" will be unilaterally defined by an overzealous and hyperbolic local Chicago sports radio message board poster.
Well, when a "warning sign" is a comment on a youtube page as in the Parkland shooting, or "anger at the changing revenue model of Youtube" or any of the other "warning signs that were missed" then shooting at a Yeti because they changed the discount program for NRA owners and calling them out could be one too.

The whole point is that the concept of "warning signs were missed" is virtually useless. You can't stop mass shootings by looking for "warning signs" and all of these warning signs are just looking back in hindsight.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:08 am 
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Ask the people who called out Yeti after shooting their cooler if they were sending a message or not.

They were. The message was "Yeti sucks and I don't like them anymore". Somehow you got "I am going to kill multiple people in the future" as the message.


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 29736b348a

The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.

It is very clear that a warning sign was missed. What is a warning sign seems to be the point of debate here. I have come around to agree with Rick. have the FBI give the locals a call and have a quick chat with the ladies in the video. It will all be resolved in about 5 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
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pittmike wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/16/as-florida-town-mourns-authorities-revisit-possible-warning-signs-before-school-massacre/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5429736b348a

The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.

It is very clear that a warning sign was missed. What is a warning sign seems to be the point of debate here. I have come around to agree with Rick. have the FBI give the locals a call and have a quick chat with the ladies in the video. It will all be resolved in about 5 minutes.


Yes! Let's use the FBI to chill free speech! Good idea.


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:12 am 
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
pittmike wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/16/as-florida-town-mourns-authorities-revisit-possible-warning-signs-before-school-massacre/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5429736b348a

The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.

It is very clear that a warning sign was missed. What is a warning sign seems to be the point of debate here. I have come around to agree with Rick. have the FBI give the locals a call and have a quick chat with the ladies in the video. It will all be resolved in about 5 minutes.


Yes! Let's use the FBI to chill free speech! Good idea.


We have to do something.

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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:14 am 
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pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/16/as-florida-town-mourns-authorities-revisit-possible-warning-signs-before-school-massacre/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5429736b348a

The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.

It is very clear that a warning sign was missed. What is a warning sign seems to be the point of debate here. I have come around to agree with Rick. have the FBI give the locals a call and have a quick chat with the ladies in the video. It will all be resolved in about 5 minutes.


Yes! Let's use the FBI to chill free speech! Good idea.


We have to do something.


....about people shooting overpriced coolers?


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 Post subject: Re: NRA Nutjobs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:18 am 
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My very limited understanding is that the FBI will call local authorities to be their eyes and ears for these suspicious cases of potential mass shooters. The authorities involved don't always communicate properly, and then a bunch of people are dead and nobody feels like it should be their fault. It's a complicated issue that is made further complicated because people are assholes and have no sense of responsibility beyond the minimum, from organizations big and small.

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The question is: why were these mass killers not stopped?

Some of the answer has to do with straightforward blunders. But some of it is related to the culture of law enforcement, which is still grappling with the emergence of spectacular mass-casualty events, despite a crescendo of incidents since the Columbine school shootings in 1999 and a growing body of knowledge on how to prepare for and prevent them.

“If agents and officers are looking for the characteristics of a traditional terrrorist, they’re not going to find them,” Cohen said. “If they are simply looking to see if an individual has violated the law so he can be arrested, very often they will not see that and will then believe there is nothing they can do.”

What was required, Cohen said, was an entirely different approach, which involves pooling information from a variety of sources including family members, school counsellors, social workers and mental health professionals to build a behavioral risk assessment, much as the Secret Service does when sizing up threats to the president.

At that point a number of avenues can open up: working with families or schools to address the underlying causes of an individual’s depression or mental instability; recommending in-patient or out-patient care with a mental health clinic; or going to a judge to restrict the person’s access to firearms, including ones already in the subject’s possession.

Some jurisdictions – in Los Angeles, Las Vegas, the Maryland suburbs of Washington and elsewhere – are doing some or all this already. Others, though, are lagging behind. And some agencies – most notoriously the FBI – are known to be reluctant to share information at all and are prone to bureaucratic in-fighting with other agencies.

There are also bedrock disagreements on how to classify mass shootings – as domestic terrorism, along with more overtly political and more targeted attacks, or as something separate. Such definitions have operational implications: the FBI, for example, has much greater leeway to gather intelligence on suspected terrorists than it does on other categories of suspected criminals.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... prevention

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
pittmike wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/16/as-florida-town-mourns-authorities-revisit-possible-warning-signs-before-school-massacre/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5429736b348a

The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.

It is very clear that a warning sign was missed. What is a warning sign seems to be the point of debate here. I have come around to agree with Rick. have the FBI give the locals a call and have a quick chat with the ladies in the video. It will all be resolved in about 5 minutes.


Yes! Let's use the FBI to chill free speech! Good idea.

How's that? Why do you hate the FBI?


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I don't know.

You'd have to ask him.


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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I don't know.

You'd have to ask him.


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I hope your garage never opens again.

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