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 Post subject: Franchise suicide
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:44 pm 
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Terrible pick.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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America wrote:
Terrible pick.

Very terrible take that you will be walking back by September.

Also, two other threads already exist regarding this specific pick. Don’t Beardown us.

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Missed blocking assignment.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Missed blocking assignment.





He didn't freeze on the play action then made the correct decision to go after the QB rather than follow the RB out to the flat (the DE shadows the RB)

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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:lol: of all the bad picks the Bears have had over the years....this is the one that you pick to call "Franchise suicide"

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Gee whiz, if Bob AND America think the pick is bad, well .....

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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They have no plan.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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America wrote:
They have no plan.

Bears should move to France.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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:lol: of all the bad picks the Bears have had over the years....this is the one that you pick to call "Franchise suicide"


It's like watching a Jackson Pollock being made. A master's brush coated in a syrupy medium of buffoonish spicy takes being slopped across a canvas of 1s and 0s, collectively making any who can comprehend the english language arc further toward becoming a drooling flesh pile of football stupidity.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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FavreFan wrote:
America wrote:
Terrible pick.

Very terrible take that you will be walking back by September.

Also, two other threads already exist regarding this specific pick. Don’t Beardown us.

If he Beardowned us, there'd be shades of racism sprinkled in the op.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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I'm not without concerns. We are now very small across the LB group with Trevathan, Floyd and Smith. Goldman gets typically winded and suddenly we have OL getting to our light LB. I could see a coach coming in with the game plan to run the ball all day and wear them out in the second half.

However, the positives outweigh the negatives. Good pick

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I'm not without concerns. We are now very small across the LB group with Trevathan, Floyd and Smith. Goldman gets typically winded and suddenly we have OL getting to our light LB. I could see a coach coming in with the game plan to run the ball all day and wear them out in the second half.

However, the positives outweigh the negatives. Good pick


I would have traded down. Got two second round picks back and took Rashaan Evans who is just as good.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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First, you aren't the Bears GM (thank God)

Second, how would you have gotten that accomplished? Would you just have started calling other teams begging to have them trade up? There was very little movement in the way of trades outside of Buffalo, who had already talked trade with two different teams earlier in the week. Trading down-- without getting completely fleeced themselves-- really wasn't an option for the Bears once things shook out the way they did.

This is real world, not some fucked and stupid up Bob fantasyland.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
First, you aren't the Bears GM (thank God)



Correct, I would be an awful GM. But how much worse than 13-34?


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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
First, you aren't the Bears GM (thank God)

Second, how would you have gotten that accomplished? Would you just have started calling other teams begging to have them trade up? There was very little movement in the way of trades outside of Buffalo, who had already talked trade with two different teams earlier in the week. Trading down-- without getting completely fleeced themselves-- really wasn't an option for the Bears once things shook out the way they did.

This is real world, not some fucked and stupid up Bob fantasyland.


Cardinals traded up to 10 with the Raiders to get Rosen. I assume that trade was on the table for the Bears and the Raiders only took it because the Bears took their guy Smith

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Only after Buffalo had traded and if the Bears had Smith as their guy and didn't want to chance the 49ers taking him, then Pace did the right thing by standing pat.

Nobody outside of the Bears draft room knows if that Cardinals deal was made available or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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good dolphin wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
First, you aren't the Bears GM (thank God)

Second, how would you have gotten that accomplished? Would you just have started calling other teams begging to have them trade up? There was very little movement in the way of trades outside of Buffalo, who had already talked trade with two different teams earlier in the week. Trading down-- without getting completely fleeced themselves-- really wasn't an option for the Bears once things shook out the way they did.

This is real world, not some fucked and stupid up Bob fantasyland.


Cardinals traded up to 10 with the Raiders to get Rosen. I assume that trade was on the table for the Bears and the Raiders only took it because the Bears took their guy Smith


Raiders were all in on McGlinchy, from what I read from their beats. 49ers kind of sullied that.

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The NFL kicks the shit out of small linebackers. The guards for the BEars opponents are going to kill Floyd and this pigmy. In the meantime, they could have traded down, and tried to rebuild one of the shittiest offensive lines in all of football.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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The NFL kicks the shit out of small linebackers. The guards for the BEars opponents are going to kill Floyd and this pigmy. In the meantime, they could have traded down, and tried to rebuild one of the shittiest offensive lines in all of football.


I like this guy! Good Sox fan too!


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The Hawk is right about undersized linebackers in the NFL. Everyone is talking about Willis and Bowman. Both out of the league before 30. Assuming Bowman doesn't get a deal coming up here.


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The Hawk wrote:
The NFL kicks the shit out of small linebackers. The guards for the BEars opponents are going to kill Floyd and this pigmy. In the meantime, they could have traded down, and tried to rebuild one of the shittiest offensive lines in all of football.


I like this guy! Good Sox fan too!


I think you want to suck him off just because he used the word "pigmy".

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Caller Bob wrote:
The Hawk is right


This is where the wheels started to fall off.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchise suicide
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Everyone asking "WELL WHO SHOULD THEY HAVE DRAFTED? WHAT ELSE COULD THEY HAVE DONE?"

They could have had a productive free agency that gave them a solid offensive line and receiver corps heading into the draft. They could have taken the Fuller money and spent it on Wilson, Meredith and Fulton and been in a much better place. They could have not let Meredith just walk for NOTHING when they obviously could've gotten compensation (how nice would a 3rd rounder be right now?). They could have thought for 10 seconds about whether cutting Sitton with no plan to replace him was a good idea. Or at least developed a plan to be aggressive and replace Sitton. My guess is they just thought Nelson was going to be there at 8 because it seemed that way back in January.

Taking Roquan Smith if they had not completely fucking destroyed this roster in free agency would've been fine. If they had signed a handful of WR, not just the two steps forward one step back dance we got, and actually done something to improve the offensive line in free agency I could be totally on board with this. But they did not.

The failure of the Smith pick is the culmination of an offseason full of failures, really a tenure for Ryan Pace full of failures, that eventually boiled down to this critical draft where this thin, talentless roster on the eve of what should be their breakout season is left with one draft pick to fill 5 different needs. And then, in typical Bears fashion, they use their top 10 pick to address none of them. It is not Roquan Smith's fault.

Bradley Sowell and Earl Watson are your starting guards.
Your #3 WR is Josh Bellamy
There are only two offensive tackles on the roster and one is Bobby Massie
Eddie Goldman, who misses at least 6 weeks every year, does not have a backup. Straight up does not even have one.
They dont have a productive pass rusher
They do not have a defensive back who can get turnovers.

They have a 2nd rounder and two 4th rounders to fix this. All of these issues are at DEFCON 1. The offensive line in particular is at a full crisis state because (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is one inevitable injury to Kyle Long away from having a early-2010's Cutler offensive line, and we know how that ends. If Allen Robinson gets hurt again you'll be begging for last year's WR group. It goes on. The position they are most improved at from the beginning of the offseason is kicker. They had more capital with which to improve their roster than any team other than the Cleveland the position they did the most to improve was fucking kicker.


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Dewskie wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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First, you aren't the Bears GM (thank God)

Second, how would you have gotten that accomplished? Would you just have started calling other teams begging to have them trade up? There was very little movement in the way of trades outside of Buffalo, who had already talked trade with two different teams earlier in the week. Trading down-- without getting completely fleeced themselves-- really wasn't an option for the Bears once things shook out the way they did.

This is real world, not some fucked and stupid up Bob fantasyland.


Cardinals traded up to 10 with the Raiders to get Rosen. I assume that trade was on the table for the Bears and the Raiders only took it because the Bears took their guy Smith


Raiders were all in on McGlinchy, from what I read from their beats. 49ers kind of sullied that.


and I read that they desperately wanted Smith. Obviously they couldn't outdo the Bills to get to 7 and I think the Colts and Broncos sprinted to the podium when their guys were available.

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They need a better picture of their new O-line coach.

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