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 Post subject: Re: Bulls draft talk
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:38 pm 
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CBS Sports has a mock draft out and has the Bulls taking Bamba at 7 and Aaron Holiday at 22.

Gimme the scoop on these guys.

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Bamba is intriguing. He has a 7'10 wingspan and great timing to boot when it comes to blocking shots. He hustles, challenges shooters as far as the 3 pt line. Another good sign, he got better as the season went out. Unfortunately he had a toe injury that kept him out most fo the last couple weeks of the season. His offense is limited, but you could argue that was as much to do with his coach as his abilities. Shaka Smart didn't put much effort into featuring Bamba on offense. Another positive to Bamba is his attitude and intelligence. He's incredibly smart. He works hard. He's going to put the work in to improve. he's already shown some improvements with his shot since the season ended.

At the very worst you're getting a guy who cna be the defensive anchor for your team for the next decade. Nothing wrong with that. Assuming he develops some offensive game he could be a really nice piece.

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NBAdraftnet’s mock:

1. Suns - DeAndre Ayton
2. Kings - Luka Doncic
3. Hawks - Marvin Bagley
4. Grizzlies - Jaren Jackson Jr.
5. Mavericks - Michael Porter
6. Magic - Trae Young
7. Bulls - Wendell Carter
8. Cavaliers - Mo Bamba
9. Knicks - Colin Sexton
10. Sixers - Mikal Bridges

CBS sports mock:

1. Suns - DeAndre Ayton
2. Kings - Luka Doncic
3. Hawks - Marvin Bagley
4. Grizzlies - Michael Porter
5. Mavericks - Jaren Jackson Jr.
6. Magic - Trae Young
7. Bulls - Mo Bamba
8. Cavaliers - Colin Sexton
9. Knicks - Wendell Carter
10. Sixers - Mikal Bridges

Land of 10 mock:

1. Suns - DeAndre Ayton
2. Kings - Luka Doncic
3. Hawks - Marvin Bagley
4. Grizzlies - Jaren Jackson Jr.
5. Mavericks - Mo Bamba
6. Magic - Wendell Carter
7. Bulls - Michael Porter
8. Cavaliers - Colin Sexton
9. Knicks - Trae Young
10. Sixers - Mikal Bridges


Doncic is saying he may want to stay in Madrid for another year because he doesn’t want to be picked by Sacramento. I don’t think Bamba gets past #7, no matter if the Bulls are there or not. Dallas loves him. Magic need a point guard, whether that’s Young or Sexton. If Memphis wants to move a few spots down for #7 and #22, I’ll take Porter there. Or give the Hawks Bobby Portis and #7 to take Bagley.


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Carter wouldn't be a bad pick. Sort of seems more like a 4, but I'm stuck in 1985.

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Why do shakes and Hatchetman hate the Bulls so much? Bamba should be gone by 7 at least, so that is a bullet likely dodged.

Would totally be a Gar move to trade up to #3 or #4 to take Bamba though.




We don't have any assets that could get us from 7 to top 4 other than Markennan or future first round picks.


But I think you are right in that Bamba will be gone by 7. He's going to impress in workouts and shoot up the boards.

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I think the best you can hope for is Porter falls and taking him as a lottery ticket.

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Why do shakes and Hatchetman hate the Bulls so much? Bamba should be gone by 7 at least, so that is a bullet likely dodged.

Would totally be a Gar move to trade up to #3 or #4 to take Bamba though.




We don't have any assets that could get us from 7 to top 4 other than Markennan or future first round picks.


But I think you are right in that Bamba will be gone by 7. He's going to impress in workouts and shoot up the boards.


Memphis is in a sketchy situation though, especially if Atlanta picks Bagley (assuming Ayton and Doncic go #1 and #2). It’s the wrong mindset to have but the Grizzlies want to win now (they refuse to trade Gasol and Conley + Parsons are owed $55 million for the next few years). After those 3 players are off the board, there’s really no clear cut guy to take at #4. You don’t think #7 and #22 gets the Bulls to #4? Or Portis/Holiday plus #7 and #22?


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Why do shakes and Hatchetman hate the Bulls so much? Bamba should be gone by 7 at least, so that is a bullet likely dodged.

Would totally be a Gar move to trade up to #3 or #4 to take Bamba though.




We don't have any assets that could get us from 7 to top 4 other than Markennan or future first round picks.


But I think you are right in that Bamba will be gone by 7. He's going to impress in workouts and shoot up the boards.


Memphis is in a sketchy situation though, especially if Atlanta picks Bagley (assuming Ayton and Doncic go #1 and #2). It’s the wrong mindset to have but the Grizzlies want to win now (they refuse to trade Gasol and Conley + Parsons are owed $55 million for the next few years). After those 3 players are off the board, there’s really no clear cut guy to take at #4. You don’t think #7 and #22 gets the Bulls to #4? Or Portis/Holiday plus #7 and #22?



If Memphis is trying to win now, how does trading away the #4 pick for two later draft picks help that goal? Adding Portis doesn't really do much for that goal either.

I don't agree that there isn't separation between 4 and 7. It depends who you like. I doubt Memphis is going to like all 5 guys available in that tier equally.

Last year it cost Philly the #3 pick and a high future first round pick to move from 3 to 1. It's going to cost something similar to move from 7 to 4. it will cost the #7 as well as next year's number 1 to make that move unless you want to part with Lauri. Both scenarios, either losing next year's #1 or Lauri, don't make any sense to move up to 4.

Besides, didn't you just say that there isn't any difference between the guys at 4 and the guys at 7? If that's the case then why do you want to move up? Just stay at 7 and draft whoever since there is no separation.

Seems like you are saying two contradictory things at once.

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I think the best you can hope for is Porter falls and taking him as a lottery ticket.

Agreed if they stay at 7. I am hopeful the find a way to get up in the top 5.

The more I look at Carter the more I dont want him. I would rather have Bridges or Bamba than him even though I think Bamba has a big bust potential

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Wouldn't Trae Young be a good fit for Hoiberg's "offense"?

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Wouldn't Trae Young be a good fit for Hoiberg's "offense"?

Perfect fit, but everyone outside of Shakes and myself hate him.

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Why do shakes and Hatchetman hate the Bulls so much? Bamba should be gone by 7 at least, so that is a bullet likely dodged.

Would totally be a Gar move to trade up to #3 or #4 to take Bamba though.




We don't have any assets that could get us from 7 to top 4 other than Markennan or future first round picks.


But I think you are right in that Bamba will be gone by 7. He's going to impress in workouts and shoot up the boards.


Memphis is in a sketchy situation though, especially if Atlanta picks Bagley (assuming Ayton and Doncic go #1 and #2). It’s the wrong mindset to have but the Grizzlies want to win now (they refuse to trade Gasol and Conley + Parsons are owed $55 million for the next few years). After those 3 players are off the board, there’s really no clear cut guy to take at #4. You don’t think #7 and #22 gets the Bulls to #4? Or Portis/Holiday plus #7 and #22?



If Memphis is trying to win now, how does trading away the #4 pick for two later draft picks help that goal? Adding Portis doesn't really do much for that goal either.

I don't agree that there isn't separation between 4 and 7. It depends who you like. I doubt Memphis is going to like all 5 guys available in that tier equally.

Last year it cost Philly the #3 pick and a high future first round pick to move from 3 to 1. It's going to cost something similar to move from 7 to 4. it will cost the #7 as well as next year's number 1 to make that move unless you want to part with Lauri. Both scenarios, either losing next year's #1 or Lauri, don't make any sense to move up to 4.

Besides, didn't you just say that there isn't any difference between the guys at 4 and the guys at 7? If that's the case then why do you want to move up? Just stay at 7 and draft whoever since there is no separation.

Seems like you are saying two contradictory things at once.


You’re right. I’m saying two things. I’ll be clear.

I hope Bamba or Porter is on the board at 7. I’d be very happy with either guy. If the Bulls sense both will be gone and trading up a spot or two or three is doable, they should go for it.

Philadelphia moving from #3 to #1 last year was a huge move. I feel it’s much different than the Bulls or Cavaliers moving up a couple spots in this draft. The Sixers wouldn’t give up #3 for Jimmy Butler and the Suns wouldn’t give up #4 for Kyrie Irving. I dont know what it would cost to move up from 7 but it’s not two #1s.


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Some notes from the combine.

JJJ and Bamba measured off the charts.

Trae and Sexton came in shorter than expected. That appears to hurt Sexton more since his game is predicated on size way more than Young's.

Grayson Allen the big surprise athletically. At the top of almost every test including vertical.

Okoge from Georgia Tech and Huerter from Maryland appear to have cemented themselves as first round picks. Some are saying Huerter could be a lottery pick next year if he chooses to stay in school.

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Grayson Allen the big surprise athletically. At the top of almost every test including vertical.



Very interested in seeing how his game translates to the NBA.

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You are in Mizzou so assuming they have mizzou sports talk....whats the word on Porter and his back. Is this a dead ass with an excuse who will take 1 first rd check and fade away or is he the real deal?

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You are in Mizzou so assuming they have mizzou sports talk....whats the word on Porter and his back. Is this a dead ass with an excuse who will take 1 first rd check and fade away or is he the real deal?

Most of the things I have heard seem to think he is the real deal. I hope they are right, and I hope we get the chance to see him on the Bulls.

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The Chicago Bulls have reportedly already settled on taking Boise State guard Chandler Hutchison in the 2018 NBA draft.

Per Aran Smith of NBADraft.net, Hutchison pulled out of participating in events at the NBA combine because the Bulls promised to take him No. 22 overall.

ESPN's Jonathan Givony reported Wednesday that Hutchison received assurances he had found a "safe landing spot" from a team picking between Nos. 20-30 in the first round.

B/R's Jonathan Wasserman projected the 22-year-old Hutchison to the Bulls in his most recent mock draft.

A four-year player at Boise State, Hutchison was named to the first team All-Mountain West in each of the past two seasons. He set career highs with 20 points, 3.5 assists and 7.7 rebounds per game as a senior, leading the Broncos to 23 wins and their first NCAA tournament appearance since 2015.

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The Chicago Bulls have reportedly already settled on taking Boise State guard Chandler Hutchison in the 2018 NBA draft.

Per Aran Smith of NBADraft.net, Hutchison pulled out of participating in events at the NBA combine because the Bulls promised to take him No. 22 overall.

ESPN's Jonathan Givony reported Wednesday that Hutchison received assurances he had found a "safe landing spot" from a team picking between Nos. 20-30 in the first round.

B/R's Jonathan Wasserman projected the 22-year-old Hutchison to the Bulls in his most recent mock draft.

A four-year player at Boise State, Hutchison was named to the first team All-Mountain West in each of the past two seasons. He set career highs with 20 points, 3.5 assists and 7.7 rebounds per game as a senior, leading the Broncos to 23 wins and their first NCAA tournament appearance since 2015.


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i read a scouting report on this guy on one of those clickbait websites. The guy sounded absolutely worthless. Definitely a Bulls-type pick.

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i read a scouting report on this guy on one of those clickbait websites. The guy sounded absolutely worthless. Definitely a Bulls-type pick.

Yup. Zero chance he’s good.

Fuck them if they take him.

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NBA Comp: Landry Fields
Strengths: Great size for a wing at 6’7 with a 7’1 wingspan, should allow him to guard multiple positions at the next level … Natural scorer, averaged 20 points per game … Respectable 3-point shooter (36%) … Scores in the paint, shot 72% at the rim last season and gets to the line (7.2 FTA, 73%) … Showed leadership as a veteran on the Broncos the past two years … Consistently improved each year in college … Can push the ball in transition and run the pick and roll … Willing passer … Solid rebounder (7.7 rpg) … Forces turnovers (1.5 stl/g) … Does a good job of staying out of foul trouble … Percentages did not go down as usage went up … Should have more energy in the NBA as a result of more rest and a lesser individual workload ... Mature prospect that has all of the tools of what teams are looking for …

Weaknesses: On the older side (turned 22 in April) … Will need to gain weight/strength, 200 pounds is a little light for someone of his size and age, which will make guarding 4’s and some 3’s difficult … Relatively streaky player, some games he will score 30 and others he will score 10 … AST:TO just above 1.0, will need to be much more careful with the ball at the next level … Lacking a mid-range game, shot 34% on 2-point jumpers … Room for improvement in both his three-point shooting and defense … Mostly a spot-up shooter for now, 78% of his threes were assisted … Needs to improve decision making both with and without the ball … not an explosive jumper, though he is still a solid athlete … Will have to re-adjust to not being the focus offensively … Will need to continue to improve his outside shooting to be considered a viable three-and-D player ...

Outlook: Hutchison has a nice skillset to go with a good build in the current NBA ... Many scouts are starting to view him as a potential early second round upperclassmen steal ... While he needs to improve at both three-point shooting and one-on-one defense to get significant minutes, he is someone that could be a solid contributor right from the start on a team’s second unit ... With further development, he eventually could get time as a primary ballhandler. High floor as a rotational wing ...

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I don't understand the whole "promise" thing. If a better guy happens to fall I am taking him.

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Woj has the Bulls taking Trae Young: https://www.blogabull.com/2018/5/30/174 ... ft-special

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Woj has the Bulls taking Trae Young: https://www.blogabull.com/2018/5/30/174 ... ft-special

The note I found interesting was from the guy who had The Bulls selecting Dzanan Musa with the 2nd pick. Like most I'd never heard of him but the scouting report I found was pretty impressive if accurate.

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NBA Comparison: Bojan Bogdanovic
Strengths: He is a leader and has a strong personality ... Not afraid of the big stage, since he is dealing with high expectations since he was 15 years old ... He plays with passion ... Has good size for a wing ... Versatile player who can play from point guard to small forward ... Better athlete than everyone thinks ... Has a good first step that helps him blow by opponents ... Has High basketball I.Q ... Natural scorer... He can create his own shot at a great level... Has a quick release that makes it difficult for opponents to block his shot.. Can score from anywhere on the floor... He can score off the dribble with ease ... Very good at scoring on straight line drives... Although he is a right hander he excels driving and finishing with his left hand ... He can catch fire at any time and score in bunches ... His Mid-range game has improved through the years ... He has added some floaters to his game, that have helped him evolve as a scorer ... His range has expanded and has gone all the way to up the 3-point line ... He has been used on Catch and Shot situations with mixed results, but potential is there... Good ball handler with a great change of pace dribble ... Knows how to use a screen set for him on and off the ball... Very good on Pick and Roll situations as the ball handler, can either find the rolling big or look for his own shot ... He can do the occasional coast to coast thanks to his ability to do a little be of everything ... Good passer... Has a good court vision and can find the open man when he is concentrated ... Probably the best player of his generation in Europe at creating contact and drawing fouls ... Has improved as a free thow shooter... Good rebounder for his position, expecially on the defensive block ... Knows how to read the game and make steals... Has active hands on defense ... He can be a solid defender when he is locked in...

Weaknesses: Playing with passion isn't always a good thing, since he occasionally gets caried away by his emotions ... He has an incosistent motor, with a lot of ups and downs even in the same game ... He is a better athlete than most think, but he is still just an average athlete by NBA standards ... He must bulk up considerably ... Has a peculiar body structure with a slight hunch back with small chest and waist, so it's not certain how he can really bulk ip ... Lacks elite explosiveness ... He doesn't really have bounce off one foot when driving to the basket ... He has a short wingspan (measured at 6-9) ... He is mostly a streaky shooter for now.. He needs to improve in Catch and Shot and Spot Up situations... His off the ball game needs work... He must learn to be effective when he doesn't have the ball in his hands... Has problems against athletic wings on both ends of the floor... Can't really finish through contact because his upper body isn't strong enough... Has problems finishing against length because of his athletic limitations... He really likes going to his left and has problems when he is forced driving to his right... His mid-range game still needs improvement.. Should add some Post moves to his arsenal to explore miss-matches... Must learn to let game come to him when his shot isn't falling and not force things.... He could improve his on the move passes... Can be turnover prone at times... His short wingspan limits him on defense... His lateral quickness is average... He is not always focused on defense, mainly because he is used to be “The Guy”at smaller level and didn't want to spend energy on that end of the floor... Struggles on defense against explosive wings... His low stance on defense needs work... Needs to improve his off the ball defense... Gambles and goes for the steal, which adds pressure to his team...

Overall: Dzanan Musa is one of the best scorers of his generation in Europe if not the best. His ability to score is uncanny and he has already proved it's his most translatable skill at the next level, along with his ability to play multiple positions. For him to play at the next level though he has to bulk up his body considerably, learn how to control his emotions and improve his motor on defense.

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Please no Porter.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23791268/michael-porter-jr-cancels-second-pro-day-strained-hip

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I did think maybe he did this so the Kings don't take him.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:


His people and the Bulls set this up so he falls to #7.


The article certainly reads that way.

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Porter's camp appears to feel comfortable with his stock. The Sacramento Kings (No. 2), Memphis Grizzlies (No. 4) and Dallas Mavericks (No. 5) are interested in Porter, and it's now unlikely he falls out of the top seven in the draft, sources tell ESPN.com. The Chicago Bulls hold the seventh pick.

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For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


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