He's Back. I'm sure this is "patently absurb" to you.

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Look who's talking.

You may not know this but Palestinians cannot be granted citizenship in Israel. In addition to this is the Fact (Do you ever deal in those or are idiotic conspiracy theories the norm for you? Wait rhetorical question. I wasn't the first one to reference Israel. Ogie the zealot (pick your issue) and he will come out strong, biased, and rather uninformed about it. Because you have inherent biases you only ever see what you want to see. I referenced Ben Shapiro and as usual you have nothing to add but half baked theories and speculation lacking in any factual evidence.

I made a very apt comparison between two individuals that hold bigoted views and as per usual they couldn't be refuted.

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Mr. "Patently absurb" himself. Is there anyone more tone deaf on this board than him? If so name him. They try and give you shit all the time but you are much more in tuned than him. He doesn't even grasp that he has me on "ignore".

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These are all lies and fabrications.

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I believe that is false.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You know that the official Palestinian negotiating position is that 800,000 Jews are to be removed from their current homes right? With that in mind I don't take 1 issue with what Ben Shapiro suggests.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

LTG is Anti-Semitic only in the CFMB interpretation of the word where anything but a full-throated defense of Israel in all instances is antisemitism.

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Palestinians in the West Bank cannot get Israeli citizenship (nor should they)

Arabs living in Israel can and do have citizenship though. Those living in what is considered East Jerusalem are offered the option but few take it.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

As stated previously Theodore Herzl agrees with my position. Guess he is an Anti Semite too?

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Re-read the actual Uganda proposal from 1903, it was supposed to be temporary.

Also, if that happened you would be here complaining about the Jews usurping land from native Africans, as you seemingly have a problem with Jews vying for self determination

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

It's not ridiculous.

Feel free to like whoever you want to like without feeling the need to defend it, but Shapiro has said enough blatantly hateful/racist/straight up not true things that no, it's not ridiculous for someone to say they don't take him seriously.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

The Brookings Institute must have a pretty liberal lunch break policy for a lot of you 'intellectual giants' to have this much time to argue.

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Just chillin' like Garret Quillin.

I will reread it as well as other propositions made by Herzl. You need to do rereading as well because if you are going to be truthful (you aren't obviously) Herzl didn't want Israel to be located in the area in which it is currently located. He advocated for it to be somewhere in Europe as I recall. He also believed that it was wrong to uproot the "Native Palestinians". You are making up shit as you go along and you continue to misrepresent my position and play this fallacious anti Semite card.

I'm not interested in debating the question of Israel but I was interested in how the radical views of Ben Shapiro were any different than the radical views of Louis Farrakkan. Thanks for demonstrating that they are essentially two sides of the same coin when it comes to bigotry. One is viewed as hate mongerer (appropriately so) that wants to wipe Jews off the planet while the other is viewed as a"conservative intellectual" whose ideas must be taken seriously. Which ideas are those by the way?

Also if you want to conduct a checklist as to which guy has actually done more for people (you don't) it would be no contest. While you sit on your rather judgmental and hypocritical perch you need to take a long look at some of the views that you hold regarding humanity. They are dangerous and people that hold similar views as you are often in power to do things which adversely effect others.

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Please post some of the racist things that Shapiro has said.

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Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage.

If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution… It’s time to stop being squeamish.

Also, saying the drastic difference in incarcertation rate between white and black americans is because black people commit more crimes is pretty close to that bar, IMO. He's saying societal factors don't come into play and black people are just genetically predisposed to commit more crime.

What's the case for taking him seriously?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I have to admit wanting to look into this myself, especially since I've long been intrigued by the man who warrants a beautiful cps grammar school building in Douglas park.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I love that all these political loons have oddly specific things that annoy them. I guess 59FIFTY hats are one of Ben's things.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He's right about the hat.

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I can’t force you to like anyone, but do you think he should be bullied into not speaking at campuses?

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Now these are the words of a man who wants peace.

Yikes!!!

https://books.google.com/books/about/America_2030.html?id=7tkFvgAACAAJ&hl=en

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Of course not. I just don’t think his thoughts are worthy of being taken serious.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Noting that black people commit more crimes in this country than other racial groups is not saying that black people do so because of some genetic predisposition.
I don't know where you're getting that.

Now I will agree that if Shapiro does start (or has) said racist shit like "black people have an innate criminality" then yeah he should be put promptly on the pay no mind list.

But I don't think observing reality can be inherently racist or close to racism. I could be wrong, but I haven't heard Shapiro deny that poverty is a driving force behind criminal activity and black people are more likely to be impoverished in this country.

He specifically said the incarceration rate is because black people commit more crimes than white people. There's not really another interpretation of that.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

What I've seen of his stuff on crime, he relates it directly to poverty. And I believe three main reasons for it.

And if you are going to use societal factors as a basis for your judgment of him, then it seems somewhat contradictory that you are not allowing him to cite societal factors in Israel.

As for taking him seriously, why do we have to take any person with an internet personna seriously?

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See, that pants and EBT remark is dog whistling a specific racial stereotype. To which audience was he playing in 2011?

Shapiro is a skilled debater and is lightning quick with rejoinders; however, sometimes I listen to things he says and think, "Wait, he knows better than this."

Still has many interesting things to say.