Are you really trying to draw equivalence between a businessman saying goofy stuff and government agencies inserting themselves into our political process both pre and post a presidential election? That seems kind of dumb.

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A movement of who? A movement of what? Random people on Twitter? Some marches?

I'd say most people are complaining as a form of campaigning against the President.



Agreed.

Think of it like Cubs fans. They used to be annoying douchebags in their little corner. Now they're everywhere.

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You for seem reason still seem to think that he should be judged as a businessman and not a politician which is what is really dumb. It is a continuance of your willingness to provide a pass for anything that he does.

The resistance movement from what i understand is mostly led by non politicians but you don't provide the same distinction that you provide for Trump. Not surprising however.

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I think the difference with Trump is that these Russia investigations just seems like the guise being used for his inevitable impeachment rather than something that just came up randomly. There have been very outspoken, powerful people trying to impeach him from day one. It's not Trump himself that anyone feels sorry for; it's the nearly half of all voters who elected him to office. Do their votes just not count because the guy they elected is an overly sensitive douchebag? That's a hell of a precedent to set just because he is a detestable person.

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Well if there was wrongdoing during the election, then yes their votes shouldn't count. But the whole Russia thing has moved beyond MANY people's understanding to the point where nobody knows anything.

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Agreed. If there's anything to it, it's hard to parse that out. I am at least mildly educated on these issues, and I have no idea what the hell is going on. Can't imagine the average voter does either.

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Whatever. One guy does not have the ability to nullify an election. And if you think it's simply a Twitter mob that is attempting to end this presidency at all costs, you're not paying attention. A entire bullshit narrative about phony Russian collusion was created for the very purpose of taking Trump out of office or, failing that, to hamstring his presidency so badly that it was completely ineffective.

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Trump waged war against the very instittutions that he now accuses of attempting to get rid of him. Did he not realize that there might not be repercussions?

He attempted to undermine the leadership of these institutions and insinuated that they were all corrupt. You can do that if your shit doesn't stink but we all know that Trump's shit does stink.

He seemed to think that he was some sort of despot simply because he surprisingly won an election. He also ran afoul of Republican "establishment" from day one too. This isn't simply a Democratic movement if it is a movement at all.

I think its exagerrated but Republicans want his ass out too. I don't think this is a witch hunt to get him as much as i think they have real shit that they could get him on. i.e. Money laundering.

I think the media made a mistake in not covering this shit during the campaign. I stated it then and i recall you doing it as well. Reader was on those shady ass business deals that he'd been conducting too.

I think they didn't cover it because they didn't think he'd be elected President. Once he won the election they began scrambling trying to figure out where they'd gone wrong.

This is simply a byproduct of that. Hillary made mistakes but so did the media and political establishment as a whole.

This is simply an effort by them to correct it. If he is clean then he is clean. There really isn't a person that can say whether he is or isn't with any degree of certainty unless they have inside knowledge of the investigation.

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Make America the 1950's Again?

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You don't know if its phony and i'm not concerned about collusion. If the phony collusion leads them to the more realistic money laundering thingy that i think he is involved in then so be it. If he is crooked then he is crooked and as such he needs to be removed.

If voters were wrong about him it happens. You can't ignore criminal activity simply because people that voted for him are going to be disappointed.

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I agree with this. But Republicans will ignore it.

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Right, and you can't invent criminal activity simply because people that voted against him are disappointed.

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I wonder if you would feel the same if it were some person or group with whom you are sympathetic rather than the evil Drumpf. Was the Clinton Foundation a "money laundering thingy"? How do all these career "public servants" get so wealthy anyway?

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Trump and the Clintons are equally detestable. Hope they all wind up in the slammer.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

If they prove that the Foundation was a money laundering thingy then so be it. I never complained about Trump when he went around with the "lock her up" "crooked" Hillary stuff. If she is guilty of a crime then she should be prosecuted. Funny how that stuff never bothered you. You never complained when Comey dropped his Bombshell right before the election either. You also insinuated that they had something on her or why would they drop such a thing.

Now your partisanship precludes you from seeing whats right in front of you. I'm happy either way and if I'm wrong so be it I'm wrong. This money laundering thing definitely has legs.

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Trump has engaged in illegal activity before. Hope you are aware of that.

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So have you and I.

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That's not why.

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Or lied about a blow job. Either way it was pointless.

That's a pretty chilling statement for any number of reasons.

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Really the only logical explanation for why Trump was making deals with foreign agents is due to the conspiracy amongst the White House and multiple federal agencies, involving dozens if not hunerts of civil servants sworn to uphold the Constitution. I mean, there really is no other possibility.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

How fucking early did you start today???

Mimosas at sunrise??

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Speak for yourself I'm squeaky clean.. Actually besides the fact that i probably wouldn't win its one of the reasons that i'd never run for elective office.

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That's one of my favorite tunes!

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That's all just wrong. Comey shouldn't have been commenting at all. His problems began when he "cleared" her. And we've since learned a whole lot more about how that investigation was handled and it's become pretty obvious that she was above the law.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what you mean about my "partisanship". If anything I'm a partisan Democrat. I can't even remember the least time I voted for a Republican. Maybe Jack O'Malley. I think I voted for Bush I vs. Clinton the first time. That may be the only time I've ever voted Republican for president. So you're way off base about my imagined "partisanship".

Finally, you have no evidence of any money laundering. You're just fantasizing.

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I'm not sure the money laundering thing has legs because if he did, the statute of limitations may have run out.

https://www.irs.gov/irm/part9/irm_09-005-005

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very nice Memorial Day thread you burritos

The primary purpose of the Special Counsel Investigation is investigating Russian/foreign interference in our election. Nearly everyone except the president and his most loyal supporters have acknowledged that Russia interfered in the past election. Robert Mueller is supposed to uncover the "how" and also if there was coordination with Americans.

The president's stupidity is the reason why it was created and his stupidity is one the reasons why it has expanded. He's successfully been able to brand the investigation as being a witchhunt and now he's saying that Robert Mueller and his team is interfering in the midterm elections to explain away a possible Republican defeat in November or to energize his supporters to show up.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

So he's investigating the Steele dossier with information provided by Russian agents?

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There is evidence that Trump used to launder money through his casinos. Even paid the largest fine in history for it. Long way from fantasizing about it.

You seem too interested in stymieing whatever thing may pop up about Trump for some reason. If he is innocent then i'm willing to let the lack of evidence exonerate him.

I personally don't see everything through biased lenses. Seems like you do though. Its a go to move each and every time. I don't think that Mueller is going after him because of a witch hunt either.

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