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This sounds like a Kramerica Industries type idea.

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I appreciate Friedman's brazenness in admitting that his stupid idea could easily do the opposite of what it was intended to do with the understanding that what really matters about 86ing the draft is giving agency to young black players at the expense of old white executives. I wonder if he was wearing a dashiki when he wrote it.

Eh, I don't think it's a particularly outlandish idea, especially since the league would presumably still being operating under a soft cap that would make it more difficult for the rich to get richer anyway. Too many teams purposefully trying to lose because of the draft is a far bigger problem than the Warriors being too good at the moment. Doing away with the draft altogether would go a long way towards correcting for the perverse incentives giving rise to the former problem.

Now if the concern is really about the super teams rather than the bad teams, I think doing away with max salaries altogether is the desirable solution. At bare minimum it makes the salary sacrifice good players have to make to come together on one team steeper than it currently is.


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Randomize all the lottery picks and you can get teams right out of purgatory and eliminate blatant tank jobs. I love the thought of a 10-72 team having equal shots at the 1st and 14th picks.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.


Glad to see you're back on the right side of history today.

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People who like Trump generally have a low IQ. And this is your guy running the front office. That is the problem. This isn't the cashier at Walmart auto, McHale has a very difficult job.


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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.


Becoming? I'm just hoping this is the bottom of what has been a downhill slope since 9/11 and the Bible thumpers in the Bush organization running things.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.


So it's ok to fire someone for his political beliefs? Are you sure you want to endorse that line of thinking? What about the players? Should they have to attest to supporting Hillary Clinton before they're allowed to take the court?

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People who like Trump generally have a low IQ. And this is your guy running the front office. That is the problem. This isn't the cashier at Walmart auto, McHale has a very difficult job.

He's not in a front office, he works for TNT. For now.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.


So it's ok to fire someone for his political beliefs? Are you sure you want to endorse that line of thinking? What about the players? Should they have to attest to supporting Hillary Clinton before they're allowed to take the court?

If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.

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If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.


You realize that is going to further feed into the disenchantment of the people that support Trump? You'd literally be giving them more red meat.

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Randomize all the lottery picks and you can get teams right out of purgatory and eliminate blatant tank jobs. I love the thought of a 10-72 team having equal shots at the 1st and 14th picks.

That doesn't do away with tanking but just incentivizes a different set of teams to do so. We already see fans and teams around 6th-8th late in the season wanting to miss the playoffs to get the 2% chance or whatever to land a top 3 pick; that only becomes much more intense if they have an equal shot at the top pick.


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denisdman wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.


You realize that is going to further feed into the disenchantment of the people that support Trump? You'd literally be giving them more red meat.

Not literally..


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denisdman wrote:
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If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.


You realize that is going to further feed into the disenchantment of the people that support Trump? You'd literally be giving them more red meat.

They weren't watching the NBA anyway.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.


So it's ok to fire someone for his political beliefs? Are you sure you want to endorse that line of thinking? What about the players? Should they have to attest to supporting Hillary Clinton before they're allowed to take the court?

If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.

I don't agree with the potential outcome, but can easily agree the scenario has potential to play out this way.

Edit for accuracy.


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So it's ok to fire someone for his political beliefs??


Free market, Denis.


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So it's ok to fire someone for his political beliefs??


Free market, Denis.


A political witch hunt. Is this Russia Danny?

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.


Glad to see you're back on the right side of history today.

I always am. It helps not to take sides before you even hear what is being discussed.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.

No they don’t have a case. It’s outrageous to even suggest they do.

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denisdman wrote:
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If the league and its sponsors feel that having him as a national broadcaster is at odds with their political vision and damages the NBA's self-styled reputation as a champion of liberal values, they will probably pressure TNT to fire him, whether it's fair or not.


You realize that is going to further feed into the disenchantment of the people that support Trump? You'd literally be giving them more red meat.

Not literally..


Figuratively okay with you? My grasp of prose is poor.

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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.

No they don’t have a case. It’s outrageous to even suggest they do.

So you think the NBA will just let people accuse them of platforming a fascist sympathizer? Plug into the Social Media Zeitgeist, man!

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He shouldn't lose his job but his name should be on the top of the list for the white people enslavement camps that are coming.

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FavreFan wrote:
Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.


Boyd 's right in that it's been that way awhile now. But I really could care less about McHale. But he's got to expect many to be wary of him in the league now. Free market and all.

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He shouldn't lose his job but his name should be on the top of the list for the white people enslavement camps that are coming.



Are you Jewish?

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Not calling out leash or ltg but it was a good starting point, but the same logic would apply here.
http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2818744#p2818744

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Not calling out leash or ltg but it was a good starting point, but the same logic would apply here.
http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2818744#p2818744

The cases are a lot different, but McHale had to know there'd be consequences, whether they are just or not.


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Who gives a shit if he likes Trump? How does that in any way affect his job? What the fuck man. People are becoming fuckin lunatics.

The NBA has an image to uphold as the liberal sports league, the league that takes a stand against Donald Trump. They may have a case that there's no place for him as a voice of this league.

No they don’t have a case. It’s outrageous to even suggest they do.

So you think the NBA will just let people accuse them of platforming a fascist sympathizer? Plug into the Social Media Zeitgeist, man!

It's not like he's going Rush Limbaugh on the set of TNT.

Hell no I don't think the NBA will cave to a few lunatics on this. Seriously man, the suggestion is fucking outrageous and should not even be considered.

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Not calling out leash or ltg but it was a good starting point, but the same logic would apply here.
http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2818744#p2818744

No, it wouldn't. If McHale used his job and it's platform to address political issues then you would have a valid comparison. Currently you don't.

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