There are some hot moms in this draft.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

We threw away an entire fucking season of trying to win to draft a "nice" player..people are cool with this ?

I’m not happy they weren’t more aggressive in trading up.

I’m also very confident we got a good player and didn’t fuck up our team like the McDermott draft.

Yeah I’m cool with this.

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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Both statements spot on. Sounds like returning a defective fridge and bringing another one back home was better than watching the draft after all.

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They blew the season with that streak in December so for a #7 pick, I like it. Solid, skilled type guy. I will take a young Al Horford. I'm not convinced there are any superstars in this draft frankly. Glad no Young or Porter, both busts waiting to happen.

Give me a day or two and another bottle of whiskey and I’ll lay out my case for why Carter actually has a very high ceiling and might be the best player in the draft.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Totally agree.

Anyone else bothered by the fact that CoF likes him?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Nope. Blind squirrel and the nut and all that.

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Well for literally the last 10 years, that's how long it's been since Rose, this has been the story. Consolation prize after consolation prize. 2010 free agency? Well they tried but hey at least they got Carlos Boozer. Hiring a new coach after Thibs? Well Hoiberg ain't bad! 2016 free agency? Well what can you do, Durant was going to GSW anyways but hey at least we got Wade! The Butler trade? Well it's the best deal they could've gotten. 2018 draft? Yea well we tanked an entire year for Drew Gooden but hey Drew Gooden wasn't always terrible!

Death by mediocrity. The only moment the Bulls have really ripped your heart out in the long, slow decline since making the ECF was when Rose suffered his career ender against Philly. Everything else has been a bunch of Wendell Carter Jr moments. And if you're really a fan of the Bulls what can you do? You have just gotta be cool with it. There's no other choice, you've been conditioned to feel this way about every move the gutless front office makes.

He looks black enough for me

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Fruit.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Game 4 of the 2015 playoffs against LeBron was a rip your heart out moment. Minutes from going up 3-1. Game 3 of that series was the last great Rose moment. It seems 15 years ago not 3.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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Ah yeah that's a good call. But my point stands.

Yeah it’s a fair point.

I’m always gonna see the grass is greener side for the Bulls and packers and always assume the Sox are making the wrong move. Not sure how that got divided that way but it did.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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I've resigned myself to that fact that the tryhard Thibs Bulls who bad their Waterloo in 2015 is going to be the last Bulls team I will probably ever like. Used to love that franchise but more than any other in Chicago they clearly have no idea what they're doing. The plan seems to be as mediocre as possible. It's worse than the Bears.

I've resigned myself to that fact that the tryhard Thibs Bulls who bad their Waterloo in 2015 is going to be the last Bulls team I will probably ever like. Used to love that franchise but more than any other in Chicago they clearly have no idea what they're doing. The plan seems to be as mediocre as possible. It's worse than the Bears.

It's just a cover your ass pick. So pitiful

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I don't think that's true. At worst it's just incompetence. I have no doubt they were trying to make their team better as much as possible tonight regardless of PR.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

That's exactly what it is. Carter turns out to be Drew Gooden or Carlos Boozer and GarPax point to it and "well he wasnt a BUST like <insert half of the other players drafted in the top 10>", not to mention it elevates some aggregate draft score that people tally using whatever WAR-like statistic basketball has. Of course the team somehow never gets any better no matter how many of these good-not-great slouches they add. Wonder why.

But that's why the Mavs are already lapping the Bulls in their rebuild, despite the Bulls starting 10 paces ahead when they still had the Butler asset in their pocket. They dont give a shit about looking good. They're going to be bold and take a few risks and it wont be long before they hit on one. They aren't afraid to fail.

They need a star. I don't care if they can get a rotation player. It's a brutal year for the rebuild.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Always exciting to get the 5th best power forward at pick 7. Also cool you get a teams second best player at 7.

They dont want stars. When they did luck into getting one they couldn't ship him out of town fast enough for a bucket of bolts. Stars are like Thibs, they go the media and cause problems. Their goal is to try and recreate the Pistons team from 06, like its not a completely different era in basketball.

Building the Gordon Heinrich roster of decent starters that will try hard and be a 4 or 5 seed. Games seven of the first round will be exciting

They have a star. They need another one.

The Mavericks point America made is wrong but I understand his frustration tonight.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Christ, even the mid-2000s Pistons had Rasheed Wallace being a public nuisance. Their goal is to recreate the Bulls teams of the same period that tried hard, made you feel good, and lost in the first round.

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I know I’m the resident Bulls apologist, especially tonight, but that’s simply not true based on their moves over the past 18 months. They went for the HR pick last year instead of Smith, Monk, or Kennard. If they wanted to recreate the Bulls team of that era they would’ve simply stood pat with Butler and replaced Wade and Rondo with other serviceable starters.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Beats having your 7th pick do nothing for 3 seasons and hope to just catch on as a 5th receiver in his 4th. Also beats having your team trade up to get a qb that no one wants.

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Really no it doesn't. There clearly is not enough talent to fill a full first round of a draft. Any league where teams drafting in the top ten generally have no realistic chance to change their fortunes the coming season at all has a problem.

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Elections have consequences.

This makes no sense. Philly "changed its fortunes" by drafting in top ten.

Phoenix just changed their fortunes by drafting in the top 10.

Boston "changed its fortunes" by drafting in the top 10.

G.S. was running the NBA based on guys they drafted.


The Bears have drafted in top 10 for the past 5 years at least and have their fortunes changed?

I'm certain if I looked hard enough i could find any number of teams that are in a similar state.

Cleveland Browns have been around for at least 10 years and have been a shitty team in each of those years.

Buffalo has been a shitty franchise for about 25 years.


When was the last time the Redskins were "great"?

How bout them "Cowboys"? Have they made any real noise in the past 25 years?

For all the talk about G.S. look at the Patriots. Each year for the past 15 or so you can essentially pencil them in as the team to beat in the AFC. As long as Brady isn't injured they will be right there for ya.

G.S. has only been around for 4 years N.E. has been on top for 15 yet people on here complain about knowing who will be in the Finals each and every year. ok.

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