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As long as she carries the Democrat label she will cow to the powers at the top. Even the king of rube mountain knows better than to fall for the potential of a young politician. She will start disappointing you the instant she takes office.

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As long as she carries the Democrat label she will cow to the powers at the top. Even the king of rube mountain knows better than to fall for the potential of a young politician. She will start disappointing you the instant she takes office.


Yep

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The problem is that the Democratic Establishment refuses to acknowledge that we have been living in an era of populist revolt--spawned by the failure of neoliberal economic policies--since 2008. Obama's first presidential campaign was imbued with populist rhetoric, but Obama largely abandoned a populist vision upon being elected...the Democratic party has yet to acknowledge its ideological folly of the last three decades and return to a politics by and for "the people".

This is true, but we also saw the GOP fail to see the same thing. They tried their hardest to keep Trump out. He won. Then they couldn't get out of their own way to repeal the ACA. The GOP machine still does not get the fact that people are tired of their shit.

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As long as she carries the Democrat label she will cow to the powers at the top. Even the king of rube mountain knows better than to fall for the potential of a young politician. She will start disappointing you the instant she takes office.
This is also true. Obama did this very thing. The Democratic party also has not realized that people are also tired of THEIR shit.

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She is about to taste genuine success and a better lifestyle. Nothing is more fatal to the socialist mindset than an upper middle class income. She may continue pandering ideologically to her constituency but her heart will never be in it more than it is now. In November she becomes a member of the Washington elite and from there she undergo a sudden, remarkable transformation into an establishment Democrat.

She will become a younger, better looking and perhaps more ambitious version of the guy she replaced.


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She is about to taste genuine success and a better lifestyle. Nothing is more fatal to the socialist mindset than an upper middle class income. She may continue pandering ideologically to her constituency but her heart will never be in it more than it is now. In November she becomes a member of the Washington elite and from there she undergo a sudden, remarkable transformation into an establishment Democrat.

She will become a younger, better looking and perhaps more ambitious version of the guy she replaced.


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She is about to taste genuine success and a better lifestyle. Nothing is more fatal to the socialist mindset than an upper middle class income. She may continue pandering ideologically to her constituency but her heart will never be in it more than it is now. In November she becomes a member of the Washington elite and from there she undergo a sudden, remarkable transformation into an establishment Democrat.

She will become a younger, better looking and perhaps more ambitious version of the guy she replaced.

You can write that about any politician regardless of party.


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In my admittedly limited knowledge of her, she seems like a Sanders-style socialist whose primary focus is the working class. Even if idealistic, it is palatable. The current Hillary-Crats will hate her soon enough when she makes a comment about how poverty doesn't have a race or that racial and gender issues are really economic issues (or if she implies that shaking hands is different than rape). Still, it's encouraging to see non-establishment types rising up. Maybe the advent of social media and the ability for individuals to spread a message will be a net positive.

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The current Hillary-Crats will hate her soon enough

Nah..., She will be initiated into Psi-Chi-Clinton Sorority in November


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The current Hillary-Crats will hate her soon enough

Nah..., She will be initiated into Psi-Chi-Clinton Sorority in November


Let's hope not.

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In my admittedly limited knowledge of her, she seems like a Sanders-style socialist whose primary focus is the working class. Even if idealistic, it is palatable. The current Hillary-Crats will hate her soon enough when she makes a comment about how poverty doesn't have a race or that racial and gender issues are really economic issues (or if she implies that shaking hands is different than rape). Still, it's encouraging to see non-establishment types rising up. Maybe the advent of social media and the ability for individuals to spread a message will be a net positive.


They'll lay off her because

1) she's a woman and a person of color. Identity politics, baby
2) She has enough markers of the professional-managerial class (double-major in econ and IR from BU, worked for Ted Kennedy) that they'll see her as one of their own and not a real threat to their power, which, hell, she really might have been all along, in which case oops

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She is about to taste genuine success and a better lifestyle. Nothing is more fatal to the socialist mindset than an upper middle class income. She may continue pandering ideologically to her constituency but her heart will never be in it more than it is now. In November she becomes a member of the Washington elite and from there she undergo a sudden, remarkable transformation into an establishment Democrat.

She will become a younger, better looking and perhaps more ambitious version of the guy she replaced.

You can write that about any politician regardless of party.

Correct. Its like a law of physics.

If you're on the far left you've been getting beaten and battered for 2 years straight with almost no let up. This girl is their ray of hope and they are going to pour all their hype into her. Its only fitting that they day she should've been taking her victory lap was maybe the most catastrophic for the left since Trump took office. They are losing the court for a generation and cant help but fantasize about how she is going this one congresswoman is going to solve climate change with a Green Marshall Plan. https://qz.com/1316082/alexandria-ocasi ... ge-leader/


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It’s like districts elect people that represent them. Democrats lose in West Virginia and they say the candidates were too far left, they have to come to the center. This lady wins in New York, people say Democrats have to run further left or else they won’t win.


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1) she's a woman and a person of color. Identity politics, baby
2) She has enough markers of the professional-managerial class (double-major in econ and IR from BU, worked for Ted Kennedy) that they'll see her as one of their own and not a real threat to their power, which, hell, she really might have been all along, in which case oops

The odds she does anything more """harmful""" than beating Cowley (and really you could say she was like a prairie fire in that regard, a healthy burn) to the establishment democrats in her entire career is about zero. All this hype already has her thinking past her congressional seat, her and her team right now are already thinking NYC mayor or NY governor probably. Democrats could not be happier to help her along, she's their ray of sunshine right now. They dont want an adversarial relationship with her and she wont want an adversarial relationship with them.


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yes....and like Obama....if she wants the next step up, she's going to need to tow the DEM company line. I agree with the others, she'll fit right into the Clinton sorority.

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“I’m dating a number of women, and a number of them are Jewish,” he added.

Hell yeah dude.

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ToxicMasculinity, daily reader of the Jewish Daily Forward.

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“I’m dating a number of women, and a number of them are Jewish,” he added.

Hell yeah dude.


I'm linked in via hardline to the internet hate machine. The circles I run in find it hillarious it's is the brown socialists versus Jewish establishment.

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Outed for being a suburban shitlib masquerading a hood-raised Bronx kid. Consummate fraud.


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I don't know, if that's her house, it certainly doesn't look like a wealthy upbringing. Looks like Pell Lake.

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Except her "story" involved her being a Bronx-raised tough kid who could stand up to the bully Republicans.

https://youtu.be/Y_1G4_oPt_o?t=1m58s
"home neighborhood of the Bronx"--LIE, then she does that bullshit BX thing. Westchester County phony.

https://youtu.be/Y_1G4_oPt_o?t=5m25s
Give me a fucking break with this shit.

Again someone willing to lie about this and pretend to be something they are not is not going to be Democrat Jesus that comes and saves the party with her unapologetic socialism. What she's been doing is playing a character. When it comes time for her to cash in all this hope placed in her for a higher office what will be conspicuously absent from her platform is all this socialism and policy. Instead will be empty platitudes about her "story" or what it means to be a public official.

She's already lying. Literally before she takes office she's making things up about herself.


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At the end of the night, when it came time to split the $560 in tips she had gotten at the bar, Ocasio-Cortez gave the waitress only $50. After the waitress complained to her manager, her take was doubled to $100, a source said.

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You may not agree with her politics but these complaints are nothing more than a hit campaign. An unnamed co-worker? If that's all they can come up with she's definitely going to be the most honorable person in the House. And if you read her answer to them trying to paint her as some wealthy suburbanite, well, I think she pretty much dominated that conversation.

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You may not agree with her politics but these complaints are nothing more than a hit campaign. An unnamed co-worker? If that's all they can come up with she's definitely going to be the most honorable person in the House. And if you read her answer to them trying to paint her as some wealthy suburbanite, well, I think she pretty much dominated that conversation.

They need to hire the Hillary campaign people that invented the birther stuff.

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Not a good look for centrist democrats if their star candidates are as complacent and disconnected from their communities as this goof appeared to be.


It's both of the parties. The same thing is driving support for Trump that is driving support for Bernie. The People just don't want the leaders the Establishment is trying to force down our throats.


The problem is that the Democratic Establishment refuses to acknowledge that we have been living in an era of populist revolt--spawned by the failure of neoliberal economic policies--since 2008. Obama's first presidential campaign was imbued with populist rhetoric, but Obama largely abandoned a populist vision upon being elected. His half-assed attempts at financial reform both failed to address the fundamental issues of economic inequality and underemployment that have plagued American society since the Clinton administration and maintained neoliberal hegemony. Obama's refusal to challenge the central pillars of neoliberalism exacerbated populist anger and paved the way for the ascendance of Donald Trump, who shrewdly recognized the political opportunity created by Obama's cowardice. Trump's disingenuous, faux populism has triumphed only because the Democratic party has yet to acknowledge its ideological folly of the last three decades and return to a politics by and for "the people".



If Bernie Sanders is the nominee in 20 the Dems lose and possibly lose big.

Trump wins again barring a criminal indictment. There isn't a Democrat out there with a high enough profile to defeat him.

I hope its Sanders by the way.

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https://pagesix.com/2018/07/01/ex-co-worker-no-fan-of-democrat-darling-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

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But one waitress has a bad memory of working with Ocasio-Cortez, 28, as Ocasio-Cortez tended bar during the very busy Cinco de Mayo celebration in 2017.

At the end of the night, when it came time to split the $560 in tips she had gotten at the bar, Ocasio-Cortez gave the waitress only $50. After the waitress complained to her manager, her take was doubled to $100, a source said.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Not a good look for centrist democrats if their star candidates are as complacent and disconnected from their communities as this goof appeared to be.


It's both of the parties. The same thing is driving support for Trump that is driving support for Bernie. The People just don't want the leaders the Establishment is trying to force down our throats.


The problem is that the Democratic Establishment refuses to acknowledge that we have been living in an era of populist revolt--spawned by the failure of neoliberal economic policies--since 2008. Obama's first presidential campaign was imbued with populist rhetoric, but Obama largely abandoned a populist vision upon being elected. His half-assed attempts at financial reform both failed to address the fundamental issues of economic inequality and underemployment that have plagued American society since the Clinton administration and maintained neoliberal hegemony. Obama's refusal to challenge the central pillars of neoliberalism exacerbated populist anger and paved the way for the ascendance of Donald Trump, who shrewdly recognized the political opportunity created by Obama's cowardice. Trump's disingenuous, faux populism has triumphed only because the Democratic party has yet to acknowledge its ideological folly of the last three decades and return to a politics by and for "the people".



If Bernie Sanders is the nominee in 20 the Dems lose and possibly lose big.

Trump wins again barring a criminal indictment. There isn't a Democrat out there with a high enough profile to defeat him.

I hope its Sanders by the way.


Why would anyone want Bernie to run again? He's going to be 79 in 2020. Hopefully the Dems will come up with someone with the stones.

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You may not agree with her politics but these complaints are nothing more than a hit campaign. An unnamed co-worker? If that's all they can come up with she's definitely going to be the most honorable person in the House. And if you read her answer to them trying to paint her as some wealthy suburbanite, well, I think she pretty much dominated that conversation.


and they are worthless post election

She will now run on her record

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Why would anyone want Bernie to run again? He's going to be 79 in 2020. Hopefully the Dems will come up with someone with the stones.

I wanted Elizabeth Warren to run, but she doesn't really seem interested in the job. Joe Biden? gtfo with that; a guy on the record as having "no sympathy for millennials" would be a monumentally stupid choice, not to mention my suspicion that the Joe Biden #metoo is ready to spring forth like a jack-in-the-box the second he announces he's running. Cory Booker is a terrible, Emanuelesque neoliberal, and his other big problem is so obvious, we don't even need Jason Goff to point it out for us. Gillibrand will say the right things but has no principles beyond getting elected, but maybe that's good enough.

It'll probably be Bernie running again and then being ratfucked again but this time in support of Kamala Harris.

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