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Markkanen will be a superstar and doesn’t have AAU buddies. You’re in good hands. Keep the faith.


I don't blame the players for doing this. If I grew up with guys and made it to the NBA I would want to play with them as well, but it's one of those things that what's good for the players is not as good for the league or the fans.

You hated the pick if I recall, but I don't think Markkanen will ever be a superstar. All-star and a great second option on a title contender, which would mean still need to find that top guy.

I very publicly hated the pick. Glad I was wrong. He’s gonna be great if he can stay healthy.

Bulls should be competitive next year and you need to be that before you can be one of the best teams or begin to draw FA interest. I think they’ll be fine in the summer of 2019 and 2020 as far as attracting FAs.

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Bulls should be competitive next year and you need to be that before you can be one of the best teams or begin to draw FA interest. I think they’ll be fine in the summer of 2019 and 2020 as far as attracting FAs.


Unless you’re the Lakers or Heat that can sell weather and lifestyle. Not too many Pau Gasols in the league who dig the Chicago opera scene. Could be wrong though!

I don’t care if they’re competitive or not next season (it’d be nice to get another lottery pick next year because I don’t think they’re competing for a championship much less a playoff spot next year), as long as they remain flexible with the cap. I’d much rather sign the Rudy Gays and Dante Exums and Jeff Greens and Shabaz Napiers on 1 year deals. And if Lauri becomes a superstar like you think he will be, the Bulls shouldn’t have a problem being a top free agent destination next summer and the summer after.


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Bulls should be competitive next year and you need to be that before you can be one of the best teams or begin to draw FA interest. I think they’ll be fine in the summer of 2019 and 2020 as far as attracting FAs.


Unless you’re the Lakers or Heat that can sell weather and lifestyle. Not too many Pau Gasols in the league who dig the Chicago opera scene. Could be wrong though!

I don’t care if they’re competitive or not next season (it’d be nice to get another lottery pick next year because I don’t think they’re competing for a championship much less a playoff spot next year), as long as they remain flexible with the cap. I’d much rather sign the Rudy Gays and Dante Exums and Jeff Greens and Shabaz Napiers on 1 year deals. And if Lauri becomes a superstar like you think he will be, the Bulls shouldn’t have a problem being a top free agent destination next summer and the summer after.



Regarding FF's point about competitive I do not buy it. If you are to be that way you are spending too much to be able to attract the few superstars necessary to win it all. Not enough dollars.

So you are then left to have to be incredibly lucky and make every single right move i.e. San Antonio and Golden State. Or you have to have a crap team with an enormous cap to allow for a Miami like arrangement.

It seems clear that there are not enough of the mega star caliber players to allow for a more competitive league. Maybe it is a way in which the game is played, coached and officiated that allows such a select handful of stars to dominate. I simply cannot believe there aren't enough talented ball players in the world to fill more teams playing a style in which competition could be closer.

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No worries, they are fine per David Griffin

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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.

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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.

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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.


Why give up on him already? He has a lot of skills. How long do you want the team to be in rebuilding mode?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.


Why give up on him already? He has a lot of skills. How long do you want the team to be in rebuilding mode?



You can't sign him and screw yourself up with the cap. Keeping him because you don't want to lose him is the wrong move. If some team wants to overpay for him then let him roll.

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long time guy wrote:
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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.

Yeah, I can agree with that. But offering him a max deal is insane and will clog up cap space when for when they really want to compete in the east.

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Douchebag wrote:
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Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.

Yeah, I can agree with that. But offering him a max deal is insane and will clog up cap space when for when they really want to compete in the east.


I don't think Dunn is anything though. Can't shoot. So it means the rebuild is Carter and Markkanen with some spare parts.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Douchebag wrote:
long time guy wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.

Yeah, I can agree with that. But offering him a max deal is insane and will clog up cap space when for when they really want to compete in the east.


I don't think Dunn is anything though. Can't shoot. So it means the rebuild is Carter and Markkanen with some spare parts.


If only there was such a thing as free agency where the Bulls could pick up some better players.


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I get really frustrated hearing teams get all creative and do crazy things trying to change their fortunes. Then I see what the Bulls do.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
Kings interested in signing LaVine to an offer sheet.



https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls ... ach-lavine

The numbers that the Bulls are looking to offer him are right about what he is worth. Wouldn't do more than 20 per year for him. If someone gets out their body for Lavine (25-30 per year) adios amigos.

I'll help LaVine pack.



For the right price i'd keep him.


Why give up on him already? He has a lot of skills. How long do you want the team to be in rebuilding mode?

I dont think most of us are ready to give up on him, but we are also not ready to back up the brinks truck and give him a max deal. If a team offers him a max deal then let him go. If it is a reasonable deal then match it.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Bulls should be competitive next year and you need to be that before you can be one of the best teams or begin to draw FA interest. I think they’ll be fine in the summer of 2019 and 2020 as far as attracting FAs.


Unless you’re the Lakers or Heat that can sell weather and lifestyle. Not too many Pau Gasols in the league who dig the Chicago opera scene. Could be wrong though!

I don’t care if they’re competitive or not next season (it’d be nice to get another lottery pick next year because I don’t think they’re competing for a championship much less a playoff spot next year), as long as they remain flexible with the cap. I’d much rather sign the Rudy Gays and Dante Exums and Jeff Greens and Shabaz Napiers on 1 year deals. And if Lauri becomes a superstar like you think he will be, the Bulls shouldn’t have a problem being a top free agent destination next summer and the summer after.


This team still has Reinny and a front office that is shitty. Along with a coach who is pretty bad. Those may not be total game changers for a player in free agency but it certainly doesn't help the cause.

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Bulls should be competitive next year and you need to be that before you can be one of the best teams or begin to draw FA interest. I think they’ll be fine in the summer of 2019 and 2020 as far as attracting FAs.


Unless you’re the Lakers or Heat that can sell weather and lifestyle. Not too many Pau Gasols in the league who dig the Chicago opera scene. Could be wrong though!

I don’t care if they’re competitive or not next season (it’d be nice to get another lottery pick next year because I don’t think they’re competing for a championship much less a playoff spot next year), as long as they remain flexible with the cap. I’d much rather sign the Rudy Gays and Dante Exums and Jeff Greens and Shabaz Napiers on 1 year deals. And if Lauri becomes a superstar like you think he will be, the Bulls shouldn’t have a problem being a top free agent destination next summer and the summer after.



Regarding FF's point about competitive I do not buy it. If you are to be that way you are spending too much to be able to attract the few superstars necessary to win it all. Not enough dollars.

So you are then left to have to be incredibly lucky and make every single right move i.e. San Antonio and Golden State. Or you have to have a crap team with an enormous cap to allow for a Miami like arrangement.

It seems clear that there are not enough of the mega star caliber players to allow for a more competitive league. Maybe it is a way in which the game is played, coached and officiated that allows such a select handful of stars to dominate. I simply cannot believe there aren't enough talented ball players in the world to fill more teams playing a style in which competition could be closer.


I think that it is the nature of the game itself that is the problem in that there are only five players on the court and maybe seven that affect the game. So when a few great players decide to go to an already good team, they almost dominate by definition. I think that the owners in the league did this to themselves and have effectively destroyed the competitive element in professional basketball. Lebron has maybe three of four dominant years ahead of him at best so whoever he leaves the Cavs for, is going to be one of the teams in the NBA finals once again to face Golden State who might as well be given the west right now.
Me? I'm going to go out next season and watch high school games once again.

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Supposedly Bulls and LaVine are very far apart in negotiations right now. Gives me hope they won’t match a dumb contract.

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I'm sure Jabari is looking for a ton of cash also.

Well yeah, why wouldn't he?

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Rather have LaVine than Jabari.

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so they traded Jimmy Butler and tanked a season so they could get Wendell Carter Jr and Jabari Parker lmao


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I’d much rather have Jabari than LaVine. I’d be furious if they paid $20M+/year for him though.

America, the Bulls didn’t tank last year. That’s what everyone is so pissed about.

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Bulls interested in Jabari.


I'd heard that about 6-8 weeks ago from a very reliable source. I hope they sign him but i wonder where he'll play. Don't know if he can guard 3's and Marrkanan is the 4 of the future.

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I'd heard that about 6-8 weeks ago from a very reliable source. I hope they sign him but i wonder where he'll play. Don't know if he can guard 3's and Marrkanan is the 4 of the future.

He can’t really guard anyone from what I’ve seen and heard but yes I want him too. At the right price though, right? You aren’t signing Jabari to 4 years/$80 mil are you?

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I'd heard that about 6-8 weeks ago from a very reliable source. I hope they sign him but i wonder where he'll play. Don't know if he can guard 3's and Marrkanan is the 4 of the future.

He can’t really guard anyone from what I’ve seen and heard but yes I want him too. At the right price though, right? You aren’t signing Jabari to 4 years/$80 mil are you?



I might roll the dice on that. He previously turned down 3 yr 54 mil so he might think he is worth 20 a year.

I'd pay him before i pay Lavine.

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I’d much rather have Jabari than LaVine. I’d be furious if they paid $20M+/year for him though.

America, the Bulls didn’t tank last year. That’s what everyone is so pissed about.

Didn't they get in trouble for sitting their best players down the stretch?


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I’d much rather have Jabari than LaVine. I’d be furious if they paid $20M+/year for him though.

America, the Bulls didn’t tank last year. That’s what everyone is so pissed about.

Didn't they get in trouble for sitting their best players down the stretch?

I think it was more of a public scolding but that was near the end of the year. For the first 40+ games they were putting their best product out there and trying to compete. The Mirotic run in December is why they didn’t pick in the top 4 this year.

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Parker doesn't make them a playoff team...and where does he play? Make a trade to make a trade is so Chicago

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