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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:12 pm 
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For a Hall of Fame reporter, John Clayton sure struggled today.

In ONE statement, he screwed the pooch twice on ESPN Radio tonight:

"Ben Roethlesberger has a good red zone target in Heath Shuler, but the drafting of Limus Sweed makes sense since they cut Cedric Ellis."


Try Heath MILLER and Cedric WILSON J-Clay. lol.... so many names in one day to know and remember.

But nonetheless.... I'd expect more from a Hall of Famer. ;)


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Agreed.

If you can keep all of your SN's straight, he can at least keep 2000 NFL players and prospects straight.


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Seconded. Clayton is from Pittsburgh and covered the Stillers for years for the Pittsburgh paper. You would think he'd know his home town team in his sleep.

Heath Shuler is now a conservative Republican member of Congress from the Carolina mountains. He's a target all right, but not for Roethlisberger.


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Seconded. Clayton is from Pittsburgh and covered the Stillers for years for the Pittsburgh paper. You would think he'd know his home town team in his sleep.

Heath Shuler is now a conservative Republican member of Congress from the Carolina mountains. He's a target all right, but not for Roethlisberger.

That would be conservative Democrat congressman Heath Shuler. You don't have to be embarrassed by him, Coast.
Thumbs down to you.

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:lol: well deserved.


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Thumbs up to the NFL for reducing the time between picks. That draft was much more watchable.

The next move would be to cut it to 7.5 minutes and have Rd 1 on Friday night at prime time, rounds 2-4 on saturday, and leave 5-7 for sunday


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I would have preferred an 11AM start and three rounds today though.

But I did like the quicker pace.

At some times it seemed as though the NFL slowed things down for ESPN to get their shit together.


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i think cowherd and freddie coleman did a great job today on the radio.


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Jeff Dickerson, Marv Levy and Howard Griffith were a bit disorganized. On several occassions they were uncertain about whether or not they were sending things to New York to announce a pick. They kept repeating themselves-I can't believe that Mendenhall has dropped so far and should the Bears trade up to get him seemed to be discussed way more than necessary. It would have been WAY better if they would have just broadcast the feed from ESPN tv. Thats what was done prior to the Bears pick and it was far better.

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DId anyone else watch the NFL Network coverage? I liked it for the simple fact that Boomer wasn't there. With Brian Billick and Steve Marucci manning the mikes, they provided some good insight into the players translating to the NFL.


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I forget the guy's name, but I was just watching sportscenter and they were talking about George Karl and the Nuggets. This guy said that Karl "has never won more than 1 game in a playoff series during his career." I guess he forgot that in the 90s, Karl was the coach of the Sonics and they made it to the NBA Finals. Tough to make it to the Finals if you only win one game per playoff series. Thumbs down.

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I forget the guy's name, but I was just watching sportscenter


well they're clones...hard to tell them apart.


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something Barry maybe? John Barry? He was the "nba expert" they broke away to.

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something Barry maybe? John Barry? He was the "nba expert" they broke away to.


so THAT's favrefan's real name.


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Best USFL reference moment of the draft: Chris Berman was referring to one of the backs (McFadden I believe) as a Mauler
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"A Pittsburgh Mauler if you will"
Mike Ditka and the rest of the crew just looked at him for a moment with blank stares. Classic.

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I have so far enjoyed the NFL Network coverage. All the info, none of the overdramatization, and no Blowhole Berman.

Granted, I've only flipped in and out between innings, but it's been a decent watch.


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Early thumbs down to ESPN's draft coverage for not listing what was traded when a team moved up.

They needed to either put in on the screen or at least on the scroll.

NFL Network got it right. They had a section of the scroll called "trades"; where every trade was recapped.


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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Jeff Dickerson, Marv Levy and Howard Griffith were a bit disorganized. On several occassions they were uncertain about whether or not they were sending things to New York to announce a pick. They kept repeating themselves-I can't believe that Mendenhall has dropped so far and should the Bears trade up to get him seemed to be discussed way more than necessary. It would have been WAY better if they would have just broadcast the feed from ESPN tv. Thats what was done prior to the Bears pick and it was far better.


the audio from their show sucked to high heaven. I cannot stand remotes where you can hear the crowd and you have to stretch your ears to listen. not good at all. also, they were WAY ahead of the t.v. broadcasts. Not sure where they were getting the pick info, but it was a good 2 minutes before t.v. had it.

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Ditto. Thumbs up to NFL Network and Thumbs down to ESPN. I was watching ESPN and NFL Network at the same time yesterday for the Bears 7th round picks and NFL Network and NFL.com were a minute or two ahead of ESPN. And the ESPN TV guys weren't talking about the picks anyway, they were just yakking about whatever all day long without really paying attention to each pick as they did in round one. So they are not talking about the draft and they are late in listing the picks. Makes you wonder why they were even there on site. Other than the fact that the draft was going on in the background, the ESPN TV coverage on day 2 was just one long gabfest that could have taken place in the studio.


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I think I made the comment some where else on the board but except for the manlove Deion had for Rogers-Cromartie, I thought their coverage was very tight - Billick and Mariucci brought their A games and their draft expert was better than Kiper because he didn't need to hear himself talk a ton.


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Thumbs down to MJH for devoting a segment to the "Joe Girardi has banned candy from the Yankee clubhouse" story.
1) B&B covered this the previous day, so it wasn't breaking news.
2) An hour prior to the MJH segment, Girardi was on 670 stating the report was not true at all and his favorite was M&M's.


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Thumbs down to MJH for devoting a segment to the "Joe Girardi has banned candy from the Yankee clubhouse" story.
1) B&B covered this the previous day, so it wasn't breaking news.
2) An hour prior to the MJH segment, Girardi was on 670 stating the report was not true at all and his favorite was M&M's.


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Do you think MJH actually care what B&B do? Whatever it is, it's not working.


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You're right, listeners don't flip back and forth between the 2 shows. :roll:

It was old news that they acted like nobody had ever heard and it was just previously declared false by the subject involved.


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