Marcus Harrison, DT from Arkansas.
Durability issues and off-the-field problems.
Jamie Dukes called him a power pig.
Dukes said that the Bears needed a space eater. I'm confused. I always thought you worked these guys in tandem. Hopefully, this guy has more speed than Traylor.

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Doesn't matter. You don't draft a QB in the second round without some purpose. Entering the 4th year the spot is his to lose? I'm sure he'd have liked a lit bit more of a vote of confidence than that. Ask Donovan McNabb how much he liked the idea of a 2nd rounder drafted later than him sitting behind him.

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I think the situations in Green Bay and Philly are different.
McNabb is a proven commodity, Rodgers isn't.

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I'm not saying it was a bad pick by GB. I am saying that it will miss endlessly with Rodgers mind and that it sucks to be him. McNabb wasn't really completely aknown commodity coming off the injuries, either.

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I dont see what the problem is. Rodgers was drafted 24th overall, Brohm 56th overall. They didnt have a backup plan in case Rodgers is hurt, which he frequently is, or in case he doesnt pan out. Rodgers is the #1 and Brohm probably the #3, maybe the #2 going into the season. If Rodgers plays well then he wont have to worry about his job. The Packers didnt really have any gaping holes on either side of the ball, so the pick makes sense. Every team needs two good quarterbacks. I dont think the pick was an indictment of Rodgers at all.

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FF- see above post.

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Looks like the Bears love Vanderbilt and the SEC. On Benson, if he is close to being done, and if it's because of workouts, wasn't there talk on the day he got drafted, that he may not be one of the hardest workers. I remeber they said something, that was a big negative and had to change people's minds.

Kevin O' Connel just went to the Patriots.

On the Packers, drafting Brohm, I was suprised too, unless they want to make sure Favre doesn't come back.

Yeah, that would make sense as a "thanks Brett, but we'll be fine" pick.

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My point I guess would be that who gives a shit if it messes with his mind? If it does he doesnt have the mental fortitude to succeed at this level anyway. There's no way Brohm starts Week 1 this year. Rodgers will have every opportunity to make sure Brohm doesnt ever see the field this year or next.

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I would say that the reason you don't want to mess with his mind is that you want to win right now, and you can't afford to spin your wheels through the first couple of weeks just so you can hear clammor for a rookie to come in. If this was an 8-8 team last year, I'd agree with you. If you were bringing in a big-time veteran I'd agree with you. Drafting a rookie... eh. It has the potential for a Rexish situation throughout the season.

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I'd rather have that potential problem then having the problem of Rodgers hurt or Rodgers being horrible and having noone to turn to. Also theres just as good a chance that it will do the opposite and it will motivate him to become even better. I understand your point, but I think it was definitely a good value pick, TT always goes with the "best guy available" method, and I think Rodgers will have a very good year barring injury, which is my biggest concern with him at this point.

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Another point I would make about the "win now" part of it is that the Packers had the youngest team in the league last year with Favre on the roster. Their window is just starting to open, I dont see it closing right away. They have alot of good young talent on this team. I dont expect a Super Bowl next year. I would like to see whoever their young QB is have a really good season and know we have a franchise QB for the future. All the rest of the parts are in place. They need to have a QB to be a contender. They had one potential guy to do that. Now they have two. If Rodgers is good, we eventually trade Brohm. If hes not, Brohm gets his turn and hopefully he doesnt suck too.

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If any player on any team will somehow be messed up mentally by someone else coming in to compete for his position, then that guy must not be very mentally strong to begin with. This applies whether your name is McNabb, Rogers or anything else. If IB is right, then Rogers will fail because he's mentally weak and simply not good enough. If on the other hand, he's strong enough and good enough to compete and win the job, then it will make him stronger and better. Competition usually makes good people better, whether you make widgets or throw passes. And if you can't handle it, you go out of business.

I love how the Lions have become a staple in the Draft's Day 2 "Who made the most questionable first round pick" question.

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I really don't understand the Bennet pick.

I think they wanted Dexter Jackson to fall to 70, so they could have replaced the speed they lost in Berrian, and then some.

He goes a bit earlier, so they pick a guy who plays at a decent weight, if he were 2-3 inches taller, and isn't by any stretch of the imagination what you would describe as fast.

Looks like we also got a convict in the making at DT, with a left knee that has become a reason to take it easy in the weight room.

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We got a white safety!!!!!

Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, the DT we took has a criminal record. Drugs I think.

They said that's why he dropped to the 3rd.

I'm fine with that. The risk isn't as high when you take criminals in the 3rd. You're not paying them huge money. So we got a criminal DT to replace Tank. Yessssss!!!!!

Yeah, not good. Never want any white players in the secondary.

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The Bears are the only team to draft a safety in the 4th thus far, I think there is a reason for that. People were pontificating at the end of the day yesterday, that there just wasn't anymore talent at that position whatsoever. Actually the general feeling was that after the 1st round you'd likely be hurting if you were in the market for a safety.

The Giants just grabbed a player in Terrell Thomas that would have fit in Chicago nicely. He can play both CB and safety, and appears to be a all around better athlete, not to mention tackler, than the guy we drafted.

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There is always an exception.

I would have felt much better had the Bears jumped back into the second round and drafted a QB. Not sure who is available in round five - but probably not someone who will help us.

Pick #142 - Zack Bowman CB Nebraska.

Jerry must be scared to draft offense. He still needs a QB, OL, and WR, but hes in his defense mode now.

Fuck getting a QB. Will the QB we draft now be any more of a prospect than Orton? Will he be any more skilled than Orton at this point? We forget that Orton was a 3rd rounder. He is that flyer guy. We have that guy. I don't like Orton but just cuz there are QB's right now doesn't mean you take one.

People get all excited with these QB's left on the board. They all suck.

Which is why they needed to do something to get back into the second round.

Maybe. I think the Michigan guy sucks however.

Look, the guy we take this year wouldn't play this year.

Look at it this way. If we're good this year that probably means we resign Rex. If we suck we'll have a high 1st rounder and a high 2nd rounder next year. We'll get the QB at that point.

I agree they all suck, but at the same time, the 2 you have on the roster are question marks. All the talk on the NFL network, is that John David Booty could be starting for them this season, even possibly taking them deep in the playoffs.

Angelo's probably trying to trade the 6th rounder for a couple in the seventh...That's his big move.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... n/olb.html

I look at the grading system used, and wonder why certain teams will draft players ranked so low (Falcons and Eagles - Smith and James, for instance). They would likely have been able to have picked these guys up as UFA's or in the 7th round....Instead Smith gets taken in the third round.