I think that he will wind up at 3rd base. He's got a cannon for an arm and doesn't need the range there as he does as a middle infielder. I see this guy as an all-star for a lot of years. He has a great swing left handed.

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No the trade is a wash they gave up the strikeout leader for a strikeout leader....good job

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

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Chris Sale is starting his third consecutive all star game. Moncada is batting .238 with 130 strikeouts. Kopech has a 4.48 ERA with a 1.392 WHIP in the minors. Basabe has a .634 OPS in AA and Diaz may never reach AA.

Rick Hahn is Kenny Williams-stupid.

Strikeouts aren't worse than any other out.

You purposely did not reference the majority of Basabe's season that lead to his promotion nor the sample size of the numbers you referenced at AA.

Kopech will be a starting pitcher by mid season of next year.

One of those Sale starts was as a White Sox.

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If strikeouts aren't worse than any other out why do the best pitchers have many of them and the worst not so many? (As a general rule, of course. There are always exceptions.)

Of course I left out Basabe's slightly better stats at an inferior level. He isn't able to compete at AA, why would we care what he did at A? I also left out everybody's performance as amateurs.

Kopech may be a starting pitcher next year. If he doesn't improve radically he will be a poor starting pitcher.

Yes Sale started an All Star game with the White Sox and was the best pitcher in the franchise's history and they traded him for three bums and a serviceable second baseman.

Sale was traded for three guys in their early twenties who are going to take time to develop. The time to evaluate that trade is probably two or three years from now.

I wish Moncada were further along, but at the same time the Sox suck so its best he struggle now than when the team is (should be) good again in a couple three years.

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"Strikeouts aren't worse than any other out."

Still spouting simpleton statements with no context. A strikeout is an out. However, a batted ball in play 70% of the time is an out.

A walk is not as good as a hit and a K is not as good as a batted ball in play.

This is a bit disingenuous. Would you rather have a strike out from Trout or a ground out from Juan Pierre.

It’s not ok for a slap hitter to strike out 27%. But if you are hitting 35-40 dingers then the slugging opportinuty will out weigh the increased strike out risk.

Thanks for the context. I like context.

That seems like a proper way to evaluate prospects.

I'm not a stat guy. I'm glad someone informed me that an .873 OPS in A+ is only considered slightly better than a .634 OPS and that we shouldn't expect s period of adjustment in the first 100 or so AB after a promotion.

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Get dolphin a toothpick, he's morphed into excuse maker Baker.

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So he gets worse as he moves up through the system. He can't compete against better playes. That's what you want out of position players?

So get got .873 in A ball. THAT'S HIS CEILING!!!!! .873 in A ball doesn't translate to .873 in MLB.

I'm not a stat guy. I'm glad somebody informed me that AA is a level higher than A.

22 games at AA.

Good evaluation.

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Strikeouts against a team intimidates that team. Hitters have to adjust their timing when facing a dominant strike-out guy and anytime you can disrupt a hitter's natural swing the better the odds that the pitchers is going to get them out.

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Yeah, the 58 games at A when he maxed out at .873 were certainly enough to tell you that .873 is who he is going forward.

What about the 107 games the year before at the same level with the same team when he was a .640 OPS? Throw that entire season out?

more sophisticated analysis

Those two lines are jam packed unique ways of evaluating prospect development

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You're right. I'm sure he'll be a perennial all-star. Hahn pulled a fast one on Boston.

He traded talent for talent. There was no fast one.

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What do you expect from Moncada from now til seasons end.. Number wise?

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No he got the goods on Boston. They will regret the day they gave up Moncada and Kopech and Basabe and Diaz. Chris Sale can't hold their collective jockstraps. We're looking at perennial all-stars appearances and Cy Youngs out of Moncada, Kopech, Basabe, and Diaz. Dombrowski is such an idiot.

Maybe he's a second-half player. Would make up for Sale being a first-half pitcher.

I expect him to be in the .270/.340/.430 range post all star

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why do you guys feel the need to respond to idiots?

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I try not to but sometimes I can’t help myself. Damn it I did it again!

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Homer, rbi, k % ?

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he's on pace for .240 20HR 20SB. Not bad for a rookie 2B.

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Dd hr, who knows about rbi as a leadoff hitter for this buster group and k % probably remains consistent until next year

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Now...….THAT was funny

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip