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Thoughts? Says here he’s signing with the Bull for 2 years 40 million..



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2018/07/14/chicago-bulls-agree-two-year-deal-jabari-parker



It’s interesting I guess if he can stay healthy. With this move -if it works- wonder if they can swing the Anthony Davis idea mentioned in an earlier thread?


So, what say you buds.. is this a swing and a miss desperation move or are Gar and Pax on to something here?

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If only there was a thread where we were already talking about this....

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If only there was a thread where we were already talking about this....





Figured I’d clutter the forum with a thread specifically dedicated to it.




I just clicked in here and didn’t see a thread for it.

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Thoughts? Says here he’s signing with the Bull for 2 years 40 million..



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2018/07/14/chicago-bulls-agree-two-year-deal-jabari-parker



It’s interesting I guess if he can stay healthy. With this move -if it works- wonder if they can swing the Anthony Davis idea mentioned in an earlier thread?


So, what say you buds.. is this a swing and a miss desperation move or are Gar and Pax on to something here?



Its a swing and miss entire off season. Signing Parker and Levine to those nutty contracts was asinine. Typical half measures with no future in sight. Even in the east, they are not a play-off team.

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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures

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 Post subject: Re: Jabari Parker
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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz

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 Post subject: Re: Jabari Parker
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz



He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.

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 Post subject: Re: Jabari Parker
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long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz



He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.

Fultz is a bust …..prove me wrong

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 Post subject: Re: Jabari Parker
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Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.


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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz



He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.

Fultz is a bust …..prove me wrong



You're the same guy that says guys can't be great after 10 games but now they can be busts after 10. Guess that is what passes for consistency around here.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.


Not worried. This was a helluva move.

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long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures



Much better player than that bum Trae Young whom you like.

Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz



He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.

Fultz is a bust …..prove me wrong



You're the same guy that says guys can't be great after 10 games but now they can be busts after 10. Guess that is what passes for consistency around here.

If the reason they can't play s because they can't shoot...boob

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Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.

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Its a swing and miss entire off season. Signing Parker and Levine to those nutty contracts was asinine. Typical half measures with no future in sight. Even in the east, they are not a play-off team.


Your Bulls thoughts are sooo bad.


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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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“Well, I don’t know I just stick to my strengths,” Parker said. “Look at everybody in the league. They don’t pay players to play defense. There’s only two players, historically, who play defense. I’m not gonna say that I won’t, but to say that’s a weakness is like saying that’s everybody’s weakness. I’ve scored 30s and 20s off of guys who say they try to play defense.”

well that's just fucking dandy....a ltg guy it figures





Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".

Young > Fultz



He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.

Fultz is a bust …..prove me wrong



You're the same guy that says guys can't be great after 10 games but now they can be busts after 10. Guess that is what passes for consistency around here.

If the reason they can't play s because they can't shoot...boob[/quote]


He had a legit injury clown.

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Its a swing and miss entire off season. Signing Parker and Levine to those nutty contracts was asinine. Typical half measures with no future in sight. Even in the east, they are not a play-off team.


Your Bulls thoughts are sooo bad.

All his thoughts are that type of bad.

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Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.



Rankings are only relative to the teams you're measured against. There are very few really good defensive teams in the NBA.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

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Good to see that you still buy into stupid Bernsteinian bullshit such as "winning the press conference".[/quote]
Young > Fultz[/quote]


He isn't.


Trae Young will be a bust.[/quote]
Fultz is a bust …..prove me wrong[/quote]


You're the same guy that says guys can't be great after 10 games but now they can be busts after 10. Guess that is what passes for consistency around here.[/quote]
If the reason they can't play s because they can't shoot...boob[/quote]


He had a legit injury clown.[/quote]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.

Cleveland was 18th this year in opponents PPG, Cleveland 26th. Thanks for playing!


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Caller Bob wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.

Cleveland was 18th this year in opponents PPG, Cleveland 26th. Thanks for playing!

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Caller Bob wrote:
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Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.

Cleveland was 18th this year in opponents PPG, Cleveland 26th. Thanks for playing!

In this scenario, would LeBron guard LeBron? And would he shut him down?

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FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.



Rankings are only relative to the teams you're measured against. There are very few really good defensive teams in the NBA.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

No but you have to be a good defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

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FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.



Rankings are only relative to the teams you're measured against. There are very few really good defensive teams in the NBA.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

No but you have to be a good defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.



Golden State was 9th in defensive efficiency last year. Cleveland was 29th.

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FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.



Rankings are only relative to the teams you're measured against. There are very few really good defensive teams in the NBA.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

No but you have to be a good defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.



Golden State was 9th in defensive efficiency last year. Cleveland was 29th.


FarveFan on the run. His narrative has been blown to shit.


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Caller Bob wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Guys he's right. Defense doesn't matter anymore.

Compare the NBA Standings with the Defensive Efficiency rankings. You'll see that this could not be any more wrong if you tried for it to be.



Rankings are only relative to the teams you're measured against. There are very few really good defensive teams in the NBA.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.

No but you have to be a good defensive team to be at the top of the NBA standings these days.



Golden State was 9th in defensive efficiency last year. Cleveland was 29th.


FarveFan on the run. His narrative has been blown to shit.

Stick to baseball my friend.

The top 5 teams in the NBA standings this year all were in the top 10 of team defense. Every team in the top 10 defensive efficiency rankings made the playoffs. Out of the bottom 10 teams in defensive efficiency, 8 of them missed the playoffs. The best two teams in the league by a wide margin were Houston and GS, both top 10. Houston was top 5. GS also purposefully decided to take it easy during the regular season this year and even said as much publicly, explaining their 9 ranking. Golden State was 1st overall in defense last year, 8th the year before that, and 1st the year before that. They are a great defensive team.


Might wanna sit this one out Bob.

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The top 3 teams record wise were also the 3 top teams in terms of offensive efficiency. It is more important to be good offensively than it is to be good defensively in today's NBA.

Utah was No.1 defensively and no one thought of them as being anywhere close to a contending team.

If you have a couple of plus defenders as Carter and Dunn may prove to be then you will be fine.

The Bulls now have offensive weapons and the type of players that Hoiberg wants to coach.

If he doesn't get it done this year he should get launched. By get it done i'm talking 6th 7th seed. Something which demonstrates growth.

They have scoring options now.

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That's cool but none of it rebutted the facts I posted that prove that defense still matters.

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That's cool but none of it rebutted the facts I posted that prove that defense still matters.


Cleveland being 29th in efficiency rebuts everything you stated.

You can't say defense matters if the 2nd worse defense in the league is able to make the finals without playing defense.


Defense matters but it isn't as important as being good offensively.

There are no great defensive teams in the NBA today. That includes G.S.

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