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:lol: :lol:

Mine went up after my parents blocked me from going off to West Point due to my age.

You almost went to West Point?


Went up there after my junior year for a week long recruiting visit. Took "classes" & lived in a dorm. I came home looking and sounding like a recruiting video. They even promised the chance at a new car on day one of the third year. Between that and the choices they said we had for world travel after year two, I was hooked coming from a modestly military family.

But I was only 15.


I got information from them in my sophomore year. I remember the stipend and all that bring very appealing. I think my dad looked at me and responded that he didn’t think military service was a wise idea. Of course, when I was screwing around 3 or 4 years later he tried to use it as a threat but I think he and my mom had zero desire to see their boys serve after his two tours.


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Regular Reader wrote:

Went up there after my junior year for a week long recruiting visit. Took "classes" & lived in a dorm. I came home looking and sounding like a recruiting video. They even promised the chance at a new car on day one of the third year. Between that and the choices they said we had for world travel after year two, I was hooked coming from a modestly military family.

But I was only 15.

Wow, that's cool. I could never have gotten accepted and even if I were, I woulda lasted 24 hours. Pretty cool, though.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


Because it's not sincere. It's just being a douchebag to be a douchebag. The exact type of thing that bigfan complained about.


How do you know it's not sincere?

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You're the same guy who bitched about being called a Nazi. We addressed that and you haven't been called a Nazi again.


Actually I only said something AFTER Seacrest took the initiative the first time with IMU, as I thought that was a standard set. I was out enjoying a cigar the first time and everyone accused me of reporting the post and running to you guys, but I never saw the post or interacted with it.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure I've been called—tacitly at a minimum—a Nazi since.

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Now you're going to bat for guys- tacitly at a minimum- who said all kinds of stuff that you didn't find as offensive as someone calling you a Nazi.


How do you establish that?


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These two guys were handled exactly the same way as the people in those incidents and they just wanted to stick it right up our asses. Is that really so hard to understand?


No, it's not.

I missed this post. For the record, I still think JLN might be pro-Nazi. As in...he wouldn't be brave enough to join their march, but he would be up at 5 AM setting up their concessions and punch table.

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Wow Nazi accusation on a lovely Friday.

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Wow Nazi accusation on a lovely Friday.

"Pro-Nazi accusation." And I feel awful about it, really. Wednesday is a superior day for it. But I was at Six Flags.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Notice how you attempted to deflect? You are one of the main perpetrators of backdoor moderation tactics.



You asked me how is my PM'ing you asking you to stop calling me a racist without proof any different than the moderators banning posters, and I answered. How is that a deflection?


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You also have posted numerous times about the need to moderate. Now that there is something that you really don't find all that objectionable (racism) you want everyone else to stand down.


No, I stated before you entered this thread what is the source of my consternation here, and it is a lack of consistency in the stated moderating tactics of the powers-that-be, tactics which apparently can change on a dime if enough of a certain group complains.

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Beat it hypocrite and the terms of the bet still stands. Any other lying asshole that wants to jump on it feel free.

I will bounce if you can find where i said it.


I'll take you up on this bet when you find one single shred of evidence of racist things I have stated here.



Do you want me to post the picture of the ape? The same sort of Ape reference that ironically got Roseanne whacked from her job? Do you want me to post that for the world to see?


Posting a reaction GIF isn't racist. Try again.

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a sizable portion of Trump's support was driven by racism


Took two minutes. Pack your bags, Chief.


I'm bumping this so that he won't lie about it in the future. It is to illustrate how he and his comrade in arms Chas have no damn integrity. He stated that I said the "Bulk of white voters are racist" and then bumped a quote that said that A sizable portion of Trump voters are racists as his supporting evidence.

This lying sack of shit actually attempted to pass this off as the exact same quote and the other lying asshole Chas was johnny on the spot to provide corroborating testimony.

As far as the Reaction Gif goes what made it overtly racist was that it was in response to a black poster that posts at this particular site. That is what made it so obvious. Obvious to the point where others including management chimed in about it well before I did.

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I missed this post. For the record, I still think JLN might be pro-Nazi. As in...he wouldn't be brave enough to join their march, but he would be up at 5 AM setting up their concessions and punch table.


I've gone line by line through Alt-Right ideological bullet points and stated explicitly why I disagree with and/or think each is wrong. That coupled with the fact that there is precisely zero evidence of me saying "pro-Nazi" things and I would say your assertion here is fucked up.


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So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?


Here is his lying ass right here. Never said this.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?


We are still waiting for evidence of a first time this happened.


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IMU wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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JLN-

While I don't like to see anyone banned because the entire thing is childish, (unless they are scammers or making actual threats) it seems like there is a clear standard set now, and it's painful to keep harping on it. Moderating here is volunteer work for a hobby not a paradigm of constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech or gathering.

JLN, listen to this guy since you aren’t listening to anyone else in this thread.


I've never questioned the standard, I've only questioned how the standard came in to existence from the previous ether of "we're not punishing anyone" and "we simply aren't interventionist gods", and asked for an explanation. For that I got told I was having a temper tantrum, called a "fucking asshole" and so on.


Because it's not sincere. It's just being a douchebag to be a douchebag. The exact type of thing that bigfan complained about.


How do you know it's not sincere?

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You're the same guy who bitched about being called a Nazi. We addressed that and you haven't been called a Nazi again.


Actually I only said something AFTER Seacrest took the initiative the first time with IMU, as I thought that was a standard set. I was out enjoying a cigar the first time and everyone accused me of reporting the post and running to you guys, but I never saw the post or interacted with it.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure I've been called—tacitly at a minimum—a Nazi since.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Now you're going to bat for guys- tacitly at a minimum- who said all kinds of stuff that you didn't find as offensive as someone calling you a Nazi.


How do you establish that?


Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
These two guys were handled exactly the same way as the people in those incidents and they just wanted to stick it right up our asses. Is that really so hard to understand?


No, it's not.

I missed this post. For the record, I still think JLN might be pro-Nazi. As in...he wouldn't be brave enough to join their march, but he would be up at 5 AM setting up their concessions and punch table.

Yeah . . . no. He's generally conservative, he can push people's buttons, he's a pitbull, and a couple of times I wish he had backed off, but . . . not even close. Unless you're trying to push his buttons :lol:


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Management wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?


We are still waiting for evidence of a first time this happened.


Sincerely,
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This is the "implies something similar" part:

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a sizable portion of Trump's support was driven by racism


JORR, just because you're butthurt about ceding your board to a clique, don't go using the Management account to pretend that LTG doesn't routinely paint white people with a pretty broad brush, and that MANY here give him a pass.


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Jesus christ, this shit again...

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As far as the Reaction Gif goes what made it overtly racist was that it was in response to a black poster that posts at this particular site. That is what made it so obvious. Obvious to the point where others including management chimed in about it well before I did.


If a reaction GIF is a comical depiction of MY reaction, how in any way could the race of another poster on the board be relevant? You and Management are imbeciles.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So with these new rules is Management going to take a closer look at LTG the next time he says the bulk of white voters are racist or implies something similar? Or are only a select few going to be allowed to get posters they don't like banned?


We are still waiting for evidence of a first time this happened.


Sincerely,
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This is the "implies something similar" part:

long time guy wrote:
a sizable portion of Trump's support was driven by racism


JORR, just because you're butthurt about ceding your board to a clique, don't go using the Management account to pretend that LTG doesn't routinely paint white people with a pretty broad brush, and that MANY here give him a pass.


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So what? They haven't been elected to anything. Trump has in fact been elected. Elected on a racist xenophobic platform with the support of white voters and people are loathe to say racism played a part in it.

Obama meets with Black Lives Matters. Whooo. Must be against the law but Trump places Steve Bannon in the white house and barely a whimper from the apologist crowd.

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Jesus christ, this shit again...


Boyd,once again look who brought the shit up. Same guy,and he starts his posts with inflammatory language. Say what you will about McNown but at least it takes him three or four words before he starts in on the swearing and name calling.

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Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".

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Jesus christ, this shit again...


Boyd,once again look who brought the shit up. Same guy,and he starts his posts with inflammatory language. Say what you will about McNown but at least it takes him three or four words before he starts in on the swearing and name calling.



Serious question chas:

Was the worst thing ever done to you perpetuated by a white man, or a black man?

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Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".



The guy calling people imbeciles thinks they're exactly the same.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".

Racist white knight will argue the next 7 pages that they are the same.

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Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
:roll:

Jesus christ, this shit again...


Boyd,once again look who brought the shit up. Same guy,and he starts his posts with inflammatory language. Say what you will about McNown but at least it takes him three or four words before he starts in on the swearing and name calling.



Serious question chas:

Was the worst thing ever done to you perpetuated by a white man, or a black man?

White guy,that does not matter.

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Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".

Racist white knight will argue the next 7 pages that they are the same.


I myself,am not saying they are the same. I am saying though that LTG does say a lot of racist and inflammatory things and he seems to just sail along with no issues.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
:roll:

Jesus christ, this shit again...


Boyd,once again look who brought the shit up. Same guy,and he starts his posts with inflammatory language. Say what you will about McNown but at least it takes him three or four words before he starts in on the swearing and name calling.



Serious question chas:

Was the worst thing ever done to you perpetuated by a white man, or a black man?

White guy,that does not matter.


Then why so much animus for black guys instead of white ones?

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How do you get that I hate everyone the same, except hispanic women. I love them.

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Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".

Racist white knight will argue the next 7 pages that they are the same.


I myself,am not saying they are the same. I am saying though that LTG does say a lot of racist and inflammatory things and he seems to just sail along with no issues.


Being black and disagreeing with you is not racist. Nor is it inflammatory.

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So you don't read what he writes then. Got you.

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White Working Class with cultural ethnic and racial hangups overwhelmingly in favor of Trump. Here is the data.



long time guy wrote:
One thing that is sort of insulting (not that you're doing it) formerly known as is the notion that working class white people cannot be racist too. If you look at History of Chicago you will find that the most virulent racist came from working class neighborhoods. Bridgeport and Canaryville were well known havens for racist behavior.



Here he is just blatantly saying that large swaths of white people are racist:

long time guy wrote:
If you had any understanding of history economic stress amongst lower class whites typically coincides with heightened levels of racial bigotry.


long time guy wrote:
Remember when people cavalierly dismissed the notion that white racism comprised a sizable portion (30-35 %) of his support.

https://mobile.twitter.com/justinhendri ... 56/video/1


If America is going to get spanked for his racially insensitive posts, LTG should be warned for all of these.


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Even if LTG said the bulk of white voters are racist it's not the same as "black people are trash".



The guy calling people imbeciles thinks they're exactly the same.


Oh, where did I say that? I said "take a closer look at", not "ban permanently", you goof.


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