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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

Good for them. Giving a piece of shit like Ryan Braun a standing O is far more egregious than this,


I mean, I guess its good everyone can move on and give him a pass for stuff he wrote when he was a teenager, but what is the point of a standing ovation?


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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

I've said it before: Brewers fans actually are the uber-white uber-bros that people accuse Cubs fans of being.

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badrogue17 wrote:
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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

Good for them. Giving a piece of shit like Ryan Braun a standing O is far more egregious than this,


I mean, I guess its good everyone can move on and give him a pass for stuff he wrote when he was a teenager, but what is the point of a standing ovation?

Anytime someone can give the middle finger to the Twitter lynch mob that’s ok with me which ( tho probably unintentional ) is what they’re doing

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badrogue17 wrote:
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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

Good for them. Giving a piece of shit like Ryan Braun a standing O is far more egregious than this,


I mean, I guess its good everyone can move on and give him a pass for stuff he wrote when he was a teenager, but what is the point of a standing ovation?

Anytime someone can give the middle finger to the Twitter lynch mob that’s ok with me which ( tho probably unintentional ) is what they’re doing


I think the ovation was a bit deeper than that.


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badrogue17 wrote:
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badrogue17 wrote:
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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

Good for them. Giving a piece of shit like Ryan Braun a standing O is far more egregious than this,


I mean, I guess its good everyone can move on and give him a pass for stuff he wrote when he was a teenager, but what is the point of a standing ovation?

Anytime someone can give the middle finger to the Twitter lynch mob that’s ok with me which ( tho probably unintentional ) is what they’re doing


Wisconsin doesn't have Twitter.

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Caller Bob Deadspinning it up.

Rogue is right. It's a middle finger to the perpetually offended people. Fuck em.

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Caller Bob Deadspinning it up.

Rogue is right. It's a middle finger to the perpetually offended people. Fuck em.

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badrogue17 wrote:
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badrogue17 wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

Good for them. Giving a piece of shit like Ryan Braun a standing O is far more egregious than this,


I mean, I guess its good everyone can move on and give him a pass for stuff he wrote when he was a teenager, but what is the point of a standing ovation?

Anytime someone can give the middle finger to the Twitter lynch mob that’s ok with me which ( tho probably unintentional ) is what they’re doing

You are part of the Twitter lynch mob.

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What I can't figure out, between this guy and the James Gunn shit from last week, who the hell has the time to dig through Tweets and shit from 7-10 years ago looking for this nonsense?

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What I can't figure out, between this guy and the James Gunn shit from last week, who the hell has the time to dig through Tweets and shit from 7-10 years ago looking for this nonsense?

America. Chus. Toxic.

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What I can't figure out, between this guy and the James Gunn shit from last week, who the hell has the time to dig through Tweets and shit from 7-10 years ago looking for this nonsense?

America. Chus. Toxic.


I guess...but fuck, that just sounds miserable.

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Bernstein: Short-Sighted Brewers Fans Celebrate Hader
The public embrace of Josh Hader came far too soon, far too easily.
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July 22, 2018 - 5:23 pm


(670 The Score) Those were quite the optics in Milwaukee on Saturday night, as 36,000 people sent a message to Brewers reliever Josh Hader, with many rising to their feet for extra, full-throated emphasis.

"No worries about using the N-word multiple times, Josh! We're with you!! It's OK!" was one inference.

"YEAHH!! KKK!! Damn right, white power!!" was another.

It was an ugly look even if the implied sentiment intended was largely something more nuanced, along the lines of accepting an apology and welcoming him back because he's really good at throwing a baseball. The mass cheering was an over-the-top insult to the groups that Hader offended with the tweets he posted proudly when he was 17 and that were unearthed last week. The crowd of mostly white and straight people was happy to demonstrate to the world that the feelings of those not like them matter far less than just having their guy back.

Applauding Hader for on-field success upon his comeback and expressions of contrition and understanding would be one thing, but this swell of reflexive support just for walking out to the mound gave the appearance of needless aggressiveness, a defiant display that reeked of recently reinvigorated elements that once would have been ashamed of unmasking themselves and now excuse nastiness by clinging to their perceived right to free speech without consequences.

Hader has said all the right things as part of the well-worn protocol of damage control and crisis public relations, insisting he's not racist or anti-gay but was just playing so when in high school in Maryland. It's possible he means it, and the immediate backlash to his racist and ant-gay statements has been the catalyst for him to begin to change and grow as a person. It's also possible he's a total racist scumbag and is lying through his teeth.

The point is that I don't know and you don't know, but a stadium full of Brewers fans was sure certain in the moment and couldn't wait to tell us so, as were those who leaped to defend them on social media.

Those fans are either rock-solid convinced that Hader really isn't horrible or they don't think that his comments make him so because they agree with him. Another possibility is the murky area between the two, the place where some people get all the benefit of every doubt in ways that other professional athletes may not.

It would be instructive to see the intersections on a Venn diagram that shows how the circle of vocal Brewers fans might overlay with those attacking NFL players for peacefully protesting injustice or those unable or unwilling to empathize with Bucks guard Sterling Brown when he was profiled and assaulted by Milwaukee police.

Crowd behavior has a way telling truths in a manner that the response of an individual may not. Social facilitation has a powerful effect on psychology and subsequent action, with inhibitions suppressed by the perception of relative safety in numbers.

That unsolicited public embrace of Josh Hader came far too soon and way too easily.

Dan Bernstein is a co-host of 670 The Score’s Bernstein & McKnight Show in middays. You can follow him on Twitter @dan_bernstein.​​
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Far too soon - where is the scale of forgiveness on something said 7 years ago. Are they supposed to shun him for two seasons? This is the perfect Bernstein story. He gets to (un-)ironically call out someone for stupid social media comments with calling an entire city likely racists.

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I don't even want things I said when I first joined this board held against me, let alone something I said when I was 17. This is a non story. All of us were dumb kids that said dumb things. Even Seacrest and Rube.

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it's probably been brought up elsewhere on this board but it's the most appropriate pointing out of hypocrisy: lena dunham openly admits to molesting her 7-year-old sister when she was a teenager in a best-selling book. "girls" wasn't canceled, and dunham's career never suffered once. in fact, most people in her camp defended her.

i'm sure JDC would have called *her* "a kid" when she did that.

edit: this is more about the pitcher at oregon state but somewhat applies with "what we said years ago" that should or shouldn't come back to haunt you.


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Brewers fans gave him a standing ovation in his first game back, wtf! :lol:

I've said it before: Brewers fans actually are the uber-white uber-bros that people accuse Cubs fans of being.


last time I went to a Brewer game I sat in front of a woman double fisting miller lites and not in the "I'm so drunk" sorority girl kind of way.

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Hader's gonna hate

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I don't even want things I said when I first joined this board held against me, let alone something I said when I was 17. This is a non story. All of us were dumb kids that said dumb things. Even Seacrest and Rube.


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I don't even want things I said when I first joined this board held against me, let alone something I said when I was 17.


I thought that was one and the same...

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It's fucking disgusting to read some of the replies on Twitter defending the standing ovation the Brewers fans gave him. They should be hanging their heads and keeping their mouth shut but they keep engaging in whataboutisms.

Hey dumbfucks- Dan Bernstein commenting on a TV host's huge jugs is not the same thing as tweeting racist, vulgar comments. And Cub fans did not give Chapman a standing ovation with the message "We forgive you. It's OK." The only similarities are that both are rather despicable humans that are outstanding relief pitchers. Most Cub fans would state that Chapman was their most disliked important piece of that championship team.

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It's fucking disgusting to read some of the replies on Twitter defending the standing ovation the Brewers fans gave him. They should be hanging their heads and keeping their mouth shut but they keep engaging in whataboutisms.

Hey dumbfucks- Dan Bernstein commenting on a TV host's huge jugs is not the same thing as tweeting racist, vulgar comments. And Cub fans did not give Chapman a standing ovation with the message "We forgive you. It's OK." The only similarities are that both are rather despicable humans that are outstanding relief pitchers. Most Cub fans would state that Chapman was their most disliked important piece of that championship team.

I'm not going to call either despicable humans. Definitely not Hader.

You're pretty quick to judge. I wonder how your day to day shakes out.

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It's fucking disgusting to read some of the replies on Twitter defending the standing ovation the Brewers fans gave him. They should be hanging their heads and keeping their mouth shut but they keep engaging in whataboutisms.

Hey dumbfucks- Dan Bernstein commenting on a TV host's huge jugs is not the same thing as tweeting racist, vulgar comments. And Cub fans did not give Chapman a standing ovation with the message "We forgive you. It's OK." The only similarities are that both are rather despicable humans that are outstanding relief pitchers. Most Cub fans would state that Chapman was their most disliked important piece of that championship team.


So Cubs fans = good. Brewers fans = evil. And Hader is as bad as Chapman because he said dumb things as a teenager even though Chapman shot a gun in a argument with his wife.

Some brilliant thoughts there. And I would say it's worst that Bernstein said those things about a fellow member of local media as a married-father vs. using bad words as a 16-17 year-old with the context being uncertain.

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It's fucking disgusting to read some of the replies on Twitter defending the standing ovation the Brewers fans gave him. They should be hanging their heads and keeping their mouth shut but they keep engaging in whataboutisms.

Hey dumbfucks- Dan Bernstein commenting on a TV host's huge jugs is not the same thing as tweeting racist, vulgar comments. And Cub fans did not give Chapman a standing ovation with the message "We forgive you. It's OK." The only similarities are that both are rather despicable humans that are outstanding relief pitchers. Most Cub fans would state that Chapman was their most disliked important piece of that championship team.


Okay, Julie.

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The pitch forks by the SJW's over Hader was stupid, but so was the standing ovation by the KKK Brewer fans this Saturday. Can all you dipshits just agree on that? Do we have to fucking argue over everything?


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Wow. I thought Hussra was doing a Bernstein parody like CH does.


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