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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


Yeah. Not too many real life Norma Rae whistle blowing moments at my work.


If I recall there have been other blowing moments at your place of employment.


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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations

That seems like an odd way of looking at it. A labor strike is a protest.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations

That seems like an odd way of looking at it. A labor strike is a protest.


Yeah but you understand the point so stop it.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations

That seems like an odd way of looking at it. A labor strike is a protest.


Yeah but you understand the point so stop it.

What's the point?

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


Yeah. Not too many real life Norma Rae whistle blowing moments at my work.


If I recall there have been other blowing moments at your place of employment.


:shock:


You don't recall that seductive story that you posted?

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denisdman wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


Yeah. Not too many real life Norma Rae whistle blowing moments at my work.


If I recall there have been other blowing moments at your place of employment.


:shock:


You don't recall that seductive story that you posted?


Ssssshhhhh

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I really don't understand the comparison with other politics in other work places. The NFL players clearly do have the right to kneel during the anthem without punishment from the league, per their most recent CBA. That's the whole reason the NFL had to threaten to fine teams instead of players with their "compromise solution" in the first place. The owners can feel free to try to open up a new round of collective bargaining a month before the season starts if it's really so important to them though. That seems like a great idea.


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The NFL players clearly do have the right to kneel during the anthem without punishment from the league, per their most recent CBA.

Completely agree.

If the owners were dumb enough to allow for it in the CBA, they have to eat it. Now....they have every right to use other means of marketing and messaging to make the players that choose to do this look like asswipes. The problem is....they do to good of a job making themselves look like asswipes on a daily basis.

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Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?

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Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?


It honestly should've been in every league's CBA after the former Chris Jackson's NBA anthem protest.

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Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?


It honestly should've been in every league's CBA after the former Chris Jackson's NBA anthem protest.

Half the country didn't act like their undies were jammed up their ass when Chris Jackson did it.

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Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?


It honestly should've been in every league's CBA after the former Chris Jackson's NBA anthem protest.

Half the country didn't act like their undies were jammed up their ass when Chris Jackson did it.


There were plenty of people who hated him for it but I get your overall point.

Once one league deals with it, you would think the others would want to follow suit just to avoid anything in the future.

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Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?


It honestly should've been in every league's CBA after the former Chris Jackson's NBA anthem protest.

Half the country didn't act like their undies were jammed up their ass when Chris Jackson did it.



That half of the country doesn’t care that much about the NBA.


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Bernsie says that the controversy is not what harmed the NFL's ratings. Have no idea if this is true or not.



Imo the awful rule changes, poor officiating drove away viewers.. I watch less NFL every year.

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Bernsie says that the controversy is not what harmed the NFL's ratings. Have no idea if this is true or not.



Imo the awful rule changes, poor officiating drove away viewers.. I watch less NFL every year.

Same here. It’s going to be even worse this year with that stupid helmet rule.

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Bernsie says that the controversy is not what harmed the NFL's ratings. Have no idea if this is true or not.



Imo the awful rule changes, poor officiating drove away viewers.. I watch less NFL every year.


It's been that way for me for about a decade now. The explosion of cfb programming helped grease the skids too.

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The protests certainly hurt the ratings. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/ ... ts-ci.html

To say otherwise is just because of a politically motivated response.

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2k people for the poll, I'm sure there are people who don't like the protesting but if the product was like it was in the 90's..they'd still tune in.

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tommy wrote:
Bernsie says that the controversy is not what harmed the NFL's ratings. Have no idea if this is true or not.



Imo the awful rule changes, poor officiating drove away viewers.. I watch less NFL every year.


It's been that way for me for about a decade now. The explosion of cfb programming helped grease the skids too.



I just don’t make the time on Sundays to watch as much as I once did. Saturday’s can be tough too but for some reason I make more time for it. Family and work greatly reduces my watching time in the fall and early winter.


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Great. Change everything for the <1% of people that watch that are like Bernsie.

You watch the ratings. Just watch.

Stupid Bernsie SJWs think they know what America wants. If Dukes of fucking Hazzard came on tomorrow night it would be #1.

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pittmike wrote:
Isn’t it more accurate to say the league did not foresee this in CBA negotiating? Who the hell thnks someone in the room said just in case let’s allow players to protest the anthem?


It honestly should've been in every league's CBA after the former Chris Jackson's NBA anthem protest.

Half the country didn't act like their undies were jammed up their ass when Chris Jackson did it.



That half of the country doesn’t care that much about the NBA.


Missed this true statement before.

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When Abdul-Rauf did it there was some complaining if I remember right but not a lot. It was over so fast though. It’s so far back that it’s hard to remember.

But honestly, if it’s not football or baseball most people don’t care out here. Unless it’s high school and if U of I is any good. I guess the blackhawks had some bandwagon but that’s disappearing.


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When Abdul-Rauf did it there was some complaining if I remember right but not a lot. It was over so fast though. It’s so far back that it’s hard to remember.

But honestly, if it’s not football or baseball most people don’t care out here. Unless it’s high school and if U of I is any good. I guess the blackhawks had some bandwagon but that’s disappearing.


Times were different

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I’d like to go on record, I’ve never liked the tradition playing the national Anthem at sporting events.

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I’d like to go on record, I’ve never liked the tradition playing the national Anthem at sporting events.

How about we start a new tradition in where you plays the Anthem when you crack open a fresh bottle of Scotch?

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When Abdul-Rauf did it there was some complaining if I remember right but not a lot. It was over so fast though. It’s so far back that it’s hard to remember.

But honestly, if it’s not football or baseball most people don’t care out here. Unless it’s high school and if U of I is any good. I guess the blackhawks had some bandwagon but that’s disappearing.


Times were different


For sure. These protests have never really offended me so it’s all so damn weird to me anyways. I mostly agree with Reason that I don’t see the need of the Anthem (At least god bless America isn’t being played at every game still) before games although I always have loved it when a Canadian team is in town and you get both anthems but I’d survive without it.


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I’d like to go on record, I’ve never liked the tradition playing the national Anthem at sporting events.

How about we start a new tradition in where you plays the Anthem when you crack open a fresh bottle of Scotch?

Nah, let’s go with I Drink Alone.

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When Abdul-Rauf did it there was some complaining if I remember right but not a lot. It was over so fast though. It’s so far back that it’s hard to remember.

But honestly, if it’s not football or baseball most people don’t care out here. Unless it’s high school and if U of I is any good. I guess the blackhawks had some bandwagon but that’s disappearing.


Times were different


For sure. These protests have never really offended me so it’s all so damn weird to me anyways. I mostly agree with Reason that I don’t see the need of the Anthem (At least god bless America isn’t being played at every game still) before games although I always have loved it when a Canadian team is in town and you get both anthems but I’d survive without it.


I always find it oddly comforting that we probably have nothing in common in terms of background, but agree on virtually all matters of principle.

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I love the anthem being played at sporting events. Not exactly sure why. It could just be nostalgia from being a HUGE baseball fan growing up.

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The protests certainly hurt the ratings. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/ ... ts-ci.html

To say otherwise is just because of a politically motivated response.

The NFL has a bigger share of total cable subscribers than they did when the protests started.

Of course some people may quit for a lot of reasons but tv ratings are shrinking because less people have cable.

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