I would. I guess who is your audience? Casual fan that wants to see a 7-4 game? I am ok with a 2-1 or 3-2 game as long as extra innings do not become the norm.

It will increase Ks at first... and forever. Very few can get on top of heat chest high. That's why it's called a ball. That's why when the zone was shrunk, it was shrunk to the low end, not the high end.

But it would cause hitters to look to hit rather than taking strikes down the middle to "see pitches".

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Do you understand expanding the strike zone EXPANDS the strike zone? The theory there will be more contact with knees to chest strike zone is kinda silly..Pitchers will sleep like babies at night while hitters will have nightmares

Baseball was fine the way it was before replay was added

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Sox won the trade


Chris Sale this season: 35.6% k rate, 6.5% bb rate
Yoan Moncada this season: 35.6% k rate, 8.5% bb rate
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My opinion is that it is the baseball and its laces that control the number of homeruns and batting averages in the major leagues and have done so for decades. That is the reason why there were so many home runs in the play-offs last year. The pitchers could not feel the laces so all that they could throw were fastballs and change-ups and the change-ups didn't hardly move either.

Not having high laces on the ball also increases the distance that well hit balls travel because there is little air resistance when the ball is in the air, therefore we saw the crazy distance that some of those ball hit traveled. AN there were home-runs hit with the batter breaking a bat and the ball still went over the fence.

In other words, anyone that thinks that major league baseball doesn't selectively JUICE the ball is naive. It has happened since the late sixties. Lowering the mound also helped the hitters immensely and negated the dominance of starting pitchers with good curve balls and sliders but it is the manipulating of the laces of the ball that caused the dominance of the hitter in the game.

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I don't think it's silly at all. MANY "hitters" go up looking to walk. If you make it more difficult to walk, they'll have to swing. There are all kinds of hittable pitches that are not being swung at due to "modern analytics".

Stone took an interesting shot at the modern walk culture and the Joey Vottos of the world during yesterday's game. Abreu was up with a two strike count and the pitch was low and away. Abreu could have taken a walk and listened to Dan Bernstein talk about how great he was for "not making an out." Instead he went down and got the pitch and doubled into the gap. Stone said simply, "That's what run producers do."

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Wrong thread and wrong section you worthless piece of shit.

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Cheap Charlie: Please confine your lunatic ramblings to one of the MANY political threads.

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Yes. Wrong section. Not for lunatic ramblings, which are welcomed here, but for non Los Blancos chat.

"what happens at Cominsky stays at Cominsky Field"-#1 Sox fan

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Thank you.

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This has replaced the Brock for Broglio as the worst trade in Chicago

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He's a free agent after next year. He's going to get paid a ludicrous amount of money. If Kopech is good and Basabe finds a role in the majors (or gets dealt for an infielder or some arms) it's not terrible. Not good by any means, the Moncada bust sucks, but they weren't winning anything with him these two seasons.

No it hasn't.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

At this point, Frank is correct and you are wrong. Deal with it, old timer.

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I appreciate the attempts at rationalization but it was a disaster of a trade at the time and only looks worse in hindsight.

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It doesn't look good, but at this point, it's still too early to say if this was a bad trade or not.

At this point, Sale for Moncada etc isn't even the worst Sox deal of the past 20-30 years, let alone comparable with Brock for Broglio.

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Probably but there's some variables yet to be determined. The most interesting of which is Sale in the playoffs. What Sale does in the regular season is fairly unimportant to Boston fans. God help him if he shits the bed in October.

Looks like the Sale trade is worse than the Sosa for Bell trade.

Especially if the Red Sox don't pretend Sale doesn't exist after he leaves.

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Kopech was throwing triple digits, while locating, deep into his last start. So lets not say they gave up Sale for absolutely nothing. The odds Kopech is as good as Sale are low, somewhere in the 1-5% range, but if he's nearly as good then 6 cheap years of Kopech right in heart of a contention window is probably more valuable to them than 3 years of Chris Sale in the heart of whatever monstrosity of an era this is. Chris Sale representing the difference between 67 and 75 wins last year is ultimately worthless. Basabe looks like he might be something too. Sox have a glut of outfielders in the minors so maybe he gets dealt, but we'll see what happens there.

Its safe to basically give up on Moncada at this point.

They should have gotten another player.

I think odds of them coming out ahead on this trade are pretty much zero with the Moncada disaster, but there is a decent chance it comes out being a good trade for the situation the White Sox are in particularly. If that makes any sense. The Sox pressed the reset button on everything, and while I think we are enduring one more of these lost seasons than was necessary, it still wouldn't have made much sense hanging onto Sale while dumping Eaton and Quintana. Anyone complaining about those two deals by the way? Anyone? How about the Kahnle trade?

What sucks about the Sale trade being the one trade when they "settled" is that he was the best asset they had. Hell, if you just suspend disbelief and say the Sox get Cease and Eloy for Sale while getting Moncada and Kopech (nevermind Basabe) for Quintana how do you feel? Personally I'm feeling pretty good. And the outcome of that hypothetical is identical to the outcome we are facing now. Do I wish they went to Atlanta and got Albies/Acuna/Allard? Or gotten Soto and Robles from the Nationals? Of course. If there is a failure in the Sale trade it lies in them not seeing the obvious problems with Moncada and either demanding more from Boston to hedge that risk or going somewhere else. The decision to trade Sale was the right move.

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Everybody gets one free pass. In LA, Kershaw got a bunch. But Boston ain't LA. October, 2018 will define Chris Sale and it will more than likely, define the trade. Part of me wants Sale to shit the bed but most of me wants to see Sale be a first ballot HOFer. He's was the best pitcher I've seen in my lifetime in a Sox uni.

Stop. Even if he doesn't work out right now this is a foolish statement

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Agreed. Of course he also thought Giolito would win the Cy Young, Giolito and Lopez would lead them to the playoffs this year, there was no limit to Robert's ceiling, then Robert was off the board, and righthanded Lance Lynn would be the perfect lefthander for their rotation this year.

It's fairly safe to say Moncada is not going to be entering into the Hall of Fame around the year 2040 but it's silly to say he's not a serviceable player at the very least.

I agree. There is nothing to me that would indicate that Moncada is any kind of lost cause His hitting fundamentals are good. The problem that I see is mental with him. He guesses too much and takes too many good pitches. That should be fixable with experience and coaching.

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But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

34% K in his 2nd season and it's getting worse. 33% in the first half, almost 40% second half. It's not sustainable in the majors. I think he'll grow to be a damn fine defender and yes, he will draw his share of walks, but at 40% his strikeout rate is just too high. .300 obp with average power and non-productive speed is a pretty shitty offensive profile. Even if his defense becomes transcendent at 2nd, which I actually think is fairly likely with all his athleticism, it's probably still not worth having him in the lineup killing rallies trying desperately to draw his precious walks and just striking out.

If he turns it around that's great but 700 PA into his White Sox MLB career it doesn't look good. Madrigal is coming. Madrigal is a good defender too and will stkke out as many times in a month as Moncada does in a normal game.