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I'm expecting a Payton Manning rookie season type year from Mitch. If they are truly going to open it up and let him learn from his mistakes, then mistakes will come in bunches.

Next year will be the year I am looking for him to be the QB Pace thinks he is. This is really his rookie year, not last year. That was extended spring training.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I see the ridiculous excuse making didn't stop with Cutler.


(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has nothing to do with Cutler. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky right now is basically a science experiment with a hopeful outcome. He has to prove himself just like any other young quarterback does. I like his chances although he wasn't the guy I wanted them to draft.

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He wasn't allowed to even play last year. It was ridiculous.


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He wasn't allowed to even play last year. It was ridiculous.


You didn't like the way Dowell developed him?

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It honestly may have set him back. Luckily they (perhaps accidentally) have hired somebody who can more than undo the damage of the Fox staff.


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I'm expecting a Payton Manning rookie season type year from Mitch. If they are truly going to open it up and let him learn from his mistakes, then mistakes will come in bunches.

Next year will be the year I am looking for him to be the QB Pace thinks he is. This is really his rookie year, not last year. That was extended spring training.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I see the ridiculous excuse making didn't stop with Cutler.



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Steve Rosenbloom had a good point this morning on the Bears hiding their offensive scheme in the preseason. You've sucked the past 4 years and have nothing to hide. Prove you are for real in the preseason and get some momentum heading into week 1.

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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

Jim Miller compared him to Steve Young.


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Miller is on the spectrum, what did you see?

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Miller is on the spectrum, what did you see?

A trimmer Stat Paddford.


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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

He looked like a guy who belonged on the field which is good for his second rookie year.

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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

He looked like a guy who belonged on the field which is good for his second rookie year.


What was your favorite Mitch Moment on Saturday night? The fumbled snap, the interception, or the chronic inability to convert on third down?

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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

He looked like a guy who belonged on the field which is good for his second rookie year.


What was your favorite Mitch Moment on Saturday night? The fumbled snap, the interception, or the chronic inability to convert on third down?

My favorite moment was how he at times looked like Steve Young.

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My favorite moment was how he at times looked like Steve Young.
He started throwing left handed?

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According to Jim Miller he is a Steve Young-Aaron Rogers mutant

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My favorite moment was how he at times looked like Steve Young.


I can see the resemblance here...

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Steve now...

https://www.hggc.com/team/j-steven-young

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Yup! Only thing better than preseason football is regular season and playoff football.

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http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=113722

Yup! Only thing better than preseason football is regular season and playoff football.

Baseball's better. But that's getting pussified too.


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Didn't see game.. Mitch look decent or dogshit?

He looked like a guy who belonged on the field which is good for his second rookie year.


What was your favorite Mitch Moment on Saturday night? The fumbled snap, the interception, or the chronic inability to convert on third down?

My favorite moment was how he at times looked like Steve Young.

Does Mitch suck a mean ass cock or something?

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky played well. The interception wasn't bad. In fact, Cohen should have fought for the ball. I liked how Mitch threw the ball while rolling out to his left. He had good touch on a lot of throws. He also showed his ability to move in and out of the pocket which he will have to with our shit offensive tackles.

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1925 ... cent-years

Con: There's almost no precedent of a player this inexperienced turning into a franchise quarterback.
We know those questions are fair because virtually every future Pro Bowl quarterback wins his college job early in his career and starts for a few years before leaving for the NFL. Most first-round quarterbacks start 30-plus games, and even the ones who leave after a couple of seasons start 20-plus contests before hitting the pros.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started 13 games at North Carolina before leaving school. Throw in the 125 passes he threw as Williams' backup and he makes it to 572 pass attempts after high school. It's not even as if we have junior college tape to work from, as was the case with Aaron Rodgers, who only started 22 games at Cal before turning into a Hall of Famer. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is as close to a one-and-done quarterback as you will find.

The closest comparison for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in that regard is Mark Sanchez, who wasn't able to beat out John David Booty as a sophomore in 2007 before taking over in 2008 and going 12-1 with impressive numbers. The Jets traded up to grab him with the fifth overall pick and ended up finding that Sanchez was a backup-caliber signal-caller. The other quarterbacks in recent years who haven't made it to 20 starts aren't really great comparisons for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, as Ryan Tannehill (19 starts) was a converted wide receiver, while Michael Vick (also 19 starts) was something entirely different as a quarterback. Akili Smith (also 19 starts) burned bright during his season as the primary starter at Oregon but quickly flamed out as a pro. There's one other passer I'll get to shortly.

There are all kinds of problems with judging quarterbacks after a limited number of pass attempts. You don't get much insight into their ability to avoid injuries. You don't get to see how opposing defenses adjust to them over the course of an offseason or how they improve on the weaker elements of their game from the previous year. In every aspect of how they perform and how they account for opposing defenses, you're stuck looking at tape over a dangerously small sample.

Think about professional quarterbacks such as Nick Foles and Josh McCown, two guys who were incredible in 2013. They combined to throw 40 touchdowns against three picks over a 541-pass sample. Over the remainder of their professional careers, Foles and McCown have thrown 95 touchdowns against 92 interceptions and performed like replaceable backup passers. If Foles and McCown were college quarterbacks in 2013 and left after their one breakout season of tape, they would have been top-three picks. We've seen quarterbacks such as Brian Brohm and Matt Leinart fall out of the top three by sticking in school and revealing themselves to be less effective passers on tape. With (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, what we've seen is good, but we haven't seen much.


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Con: There's almost no precedent of a player this inexperienced turning into a franchise quarterback.
We know those questions are fair because virtually every future Pro Bowl quarterback wins his college job early in his career and starts for a few years before leaving for the NFL. Most first-round quarterbacks start 30-plus games, and even the ones who leave after a couple of seasons start 20-plus contests before hitting the pros.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started 13 games at North Carolina before leaving school. Throw in the 125 passes he threw as Williams' backup and he makes it to 572 pass attempts after high school. It's not even as if we have junior college tape to work from, as was the case with Aaron Rodgers, who only started 22 games at Cal before turning into a Hall of Famer. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is as close to a one-and-done quarterback as you will find.

The closest comparison for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in that regard is Mark Sanchez, who wasn't able to beat out John David Booty as a sophomore in 2007 before taking over in 2008 and going 12-1 with impressive numbers. The Jets traded up to grab him with the fifth overall pick and ended up finding that Sanchez was a backup-caliber signal-caller. The other quarterbacks in recent years who haven't made it to 20 starts aren't really great comparisons for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, as Ryan Tannehill (19 starts) was a converted wide receiver, while Michael Vick (also 19 starts) was something entirely different as a quarterback. Akili Smith (also 19 starts) burned bright during his season as the primary starter at Oregon but quickly flamed out as a pro. There's one other passer I'll get to shortly.

There are all kinds of problems with judging quarterbacks after a limited number of pass attempts. You don't get much insight into their ability to avoid injuries. You don't get to see how opposing defenses adjust to them over the course of an offseason or how they improve on the weaker elements of their game from the previous year. In every aspect of how they perform and how they account for opposing defenses, you're stuck looking at tape over a dangerously small sample.

Think about professional quarterbacks such as Nick Foles and Josh McCown, two guys who were incredible in 2013. They combined to throw 40 touchdowns against three picks over a 541-pass sample. Over the remainder of their professional careers, Foles and McCown have thrown 95 touchdowns against 92 interceptions and performed like replaceable backup passers. If Foles and McCown were college quarterbacks in 2013 and left after their one breakout season of tape, they would have been top-three picks. We've seen quarterbacks such as Brian Brohm and Matt Leinart fall out of the top three by sticking in school and revealing themselves to be less effective passers on tape. With (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, what we've seen is good, but we haven't seen much.


I wanted Watson drafted but I like what I see in Mitch. I do see comparisons with Steve Young in the way he moves around. Maybe Mitch doesn't have great arm strength for the deep ball but that shouldn't hurt him much in Nagy's offense. Look at the success they had with Smith in KC. Again, my concern is the offensive line. I like that Long is back and the interior of the line is a good one. The tackles, however, are shit and Nagy is going to have to scheme the shit to cover up for them.

I was happy with what I saw over-all from the play of the offense. Howard is a beast and I like Cohen a lot despite his bad game. The other running backs look to be serviceable also. Big improvement shown by the receivers and TEs from last year. All in all, it looks like an improved team from that shit show of the last couple of seasons.

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There was bad and good today. Way more bad than good if I'm being honest. Tons of horrible throws and Nagy had to really get creative to find any sort of offense with the 8-9 men in the box and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky incapalbe of throwing it down the field. But when things got tense at the end (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky took care of the ball and Wilson did not, and that is probably the difference in the game.

The 3rd-4th quarter drive was good. The throw to Miller perfect. When they really absolutely needed the play he was there.


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There was bad and good today. Way more bad than good if I'm being honest. Tons of horrible throws and Nagy had to really get creative to find any sort of offense with the 8-9 men in the box and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky incapalbe of throwing it down the field. But when things got tense at the end (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky took care of the ball and Wilson did not, and that is probably the difference in the game.

No. The difference in the game was very clearly the Seahawks comically overmatched offensive line vs an elite Bears pass rush. Mitch was god awful tonight and needs to improve significantly quickly for this team to contend. They really should have been in on the Bridgewater sweepstakes although I understand why they weren't.

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There was bad and good today. Way more bad than good if I'm being honest. Tons of horrible throws and Nagy had to really get creative to find any sort of offense with the 8-9 men in the box and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky incapalbe of throwing it down the field. But when things got tense at the end (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky took care of the ball and Wilson did not, and that is probably the difference in the game.

No. The difference in the game was very clearly the Seahawks comically overmatched offensive line vs an elite Bears pass rush. Mitch was god awful tonight and needs to improve significantly quickly for this team to contend. They really should have been in on the Bridgewater sweepstakes although I understand why they weren't.

Bears pass rush wilts when Mack gets tired, and Mack is still not in 100% game shape.


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