They just unveiled their brand spanking new "4th Generation" fighter...

Only 1 problem...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdud ... 333b09c15a

It's a carbon copy of an obsolete F-5 Tiger, an aircraft the US stopped using for front line service back in the early 1970s and barely even used them in Vietnam as it was inferior to the F-105 and F-4. The US first designed the aircraft in the late 50s off of the T-38 airframe and then in the 70s built an export version.

These aircraft did get a 2nd life in the 70s and 80s though in the aggressor role of training squadrons.

If an F-5 looks familiar to you, that is because Paramount had several of them pained black with a red star to serve as the fictional MiG-28 in Top Gun (there are no even numbered MiGs)

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Makes a lot of the hand wringing about their conventional military might a bit more laughable.

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It's their proxies that are most dangerous, that and their stores of rocket artillery. You can see their use at work in Yemen and Syria.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

That's why I mentioned their laughable conventional military

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An American teenager, aided by a precocious group of friends and an ornery captain close to retirement, stole a loaded F-16 in the 80’s and defeated their entire Air Force by himself to rescue his dad. After that, no one should be worried about them.

The movie version took certain liberties, but it was awesome for Hollywood and all America.
David Bowie had the starring role as Clint Eastwood. It also had the great line, "Don't you Jews ever get tired of fighting city hall?"

One Vision was a great song for Iron Eagle

Does anyone every really talk about the Iranian military? I never notice that. The main thing is that it would be pretty bad for these religious lunatics to have a nuclear weapon.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

No one talks about Iran's conventional military.

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Yeah Iran with their fishing boats attacking the Navy or the "Elite Republican Army" would fold just as fast or faster than Iraq. Missiles are the concern.

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This is the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title. I haven't seen that movie in probably 20 years.

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Flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami

Old Lou Gossett was a big deal for a while.

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Abysmal soundtrack. Had a friend in the 80s who was a gigantic moron and he played it all the time.

His greatest role is Honey Roy Palmer

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The aerial sequences were filmed with the Israeli Air Force (Unlike the Navy in Top Gun, the USAF offered no help for Iron Eagle). The F-16s (which had probably all earned kills over Bekaa Valley a few years prior) were flown by Israeli pilots. The MiGs? Those were IAI Kfirs, which is was an improved Mirage 5.

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I would say Officer and a Gentleman.

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Good bad movie

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A Raisin in the Sun. He played George.

Worst movie: That one with Chuck Norris and the hot chick. I actually went to see that because of the hot chick and because they said it was like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

So tell me, pittmike, do you have any balls left? Or just that little 2 inch dick?

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A real man admits he watches Debra Winger movies.

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