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FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.

What were the Eagles' preseason odds last year?


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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.


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9-7 if Allen Robinson stays healthy

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9-7 if Allen Robinson stays healthy

I don't see a lie here

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I'm going a modest 11-5. At this point I would be shocked if the Bears aren't undefeated when their Bye Week arrives.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.


They’re still 50:1

I was at Bally’s this afternoon.


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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.


They’re still 50:1

I was at Bally’s this afternoon.


This trade was HUGE but the Bears are probably a year or 2 away from being serious contenders. In the NFL anything can happen though.

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3-1 vs the AFC East
3-1 vs the NFC West
2-0 vs the Lions
2-0 vs the Bucs & Giants

That’s 10 wins right there.

They can get swept by the Vikings and split with the Packers, and still secure a wild card spot.

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Nas wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.


They’re still 50:1

I was at Bally’s this afternoon.


This trade was HUGE but the Bears are probably a year or 2 away from being serious contenders. In the NFL anything can happen though.


Definitely.

I think they’ll be in contention for a playoff spot in December. I just don’t understand some of the reports that their odds changed drastically. They’ve been 50:1 for a couple months and nothing has changed. Still at 6.5 wins too.


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See the Giolito Cy young thread to gauge America's homerism.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FWIW, Vegas has them 40:1...which is the same odds as the Mack-less Raiders.


They’re still 50:1

I was at Bally’s this afternoon.


This trade was HUGE but the Bears are probably a year or 2 away from being serious contenders. In the NFL anything can happen though.


Definitely.

I think they’ll be in contention for a playoff spot in December. I just don’t understand some of the reports that their odds changed drastically. They’ve been 50:1 for a couple months and nothing has changed. Still at 6.5 wins too.

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The Bears received a significant boost in their Super Bowl odds on Saturday, going from 100–1 to 40–1, per Westgate Las Vegas's Jeff Sherman.

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They still have one of the most inexperienced starting QB's in NFL history. If he turns the ball over at a high rate, which is totally possible in a non John Fox offense, the good defense will be minimized. We went to the SB with Rex Grossman and an awesome defense, but Lovie's offense was pretty vanilla, no? Run and play action.


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I’m sticking with a number between 4-12 and 6-10.


Mack is a good player but our defenses have already been good the last couple years. It’s the offense that needs to improve to get us over the hump and I’m worried about our O-line being bad which could sink the offense on its own. I’m also not sure what to make of Nagy.

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Week 1 @Packers: L
Week 2 Seahawks: W
Week 3 @Cardinals: W
Week 4 Bucs: W
BYE
Week 6 @ Dolphins: W
Week 7 Patriots: L
Week 8 Jets: W
Week 9 @Bills: W
Week 10 Lions: W
Week 11 Vikings: L
Week 12 @Lions: W
Week 13 @Giants: W
Week 14 Rams: L
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I’m sticking with a number between 4-12 and 6-10.


Mack is a good player but our defenses have already been good the last couple years. It’s the offense that needs to improve to get us over the hump and I’m worried about our O-line being bad which could sink the offense on its own. I’m also not sure what to make of Nagy.

If they lose 10-12 games this year the cost they paid for Mack would be monumental

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Week 1 @Packers: L
Week 2 Seahawks: L
Week 3 @Cardinals: L
Week 4 Bucs: L
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Week 6 @ Dolphins: L
Week 7 Patriots: L
Week 8 Jets: L
Week 9 @Bills: L
Week 10 Lions: L
Week 11 Vikings: L
Week 12 @Lions: L
Week 13 @Giants: L
Week 14 Rams: L
Week 15 Packers: L
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They still have one of the most inexperienced starting QB's in NFL history. If he turns the ball over at a high rate, which is totally possible in a non John Fox offense, the good defense will be minimized. We went to the SB with Rex Grossman and an awesome defense, but Lovie's offense was pretty vanilla, no? Run and play action.


Hester had a lot to do with that too.

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Nas wrote:
Week 1 @Packers: L
Week 2 Seahawks: W
Week 3 @Cardinals: W
Week 4 Bucs: W
BYE
Week 6 @ Dolphins: W
Week 7 Patriots: L
Week 8 Jets: W
Week 9 @Bills: W
Week 10 Lions: W
Week 11 Vikings: L
Week 12 @Lions: W
Week 13 @Giants: W
Week 14 Rams: L
Week 15 Packers: W
Week 16 @49ers: W
Week 17 @Vikings: L


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At this point I would be shocked if the Bears aren't undefeated when their Bye Week arrives.


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Week 1 @Packers: L
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Week 3 @Cardinals: W
Week 4 Bucs: W
BYE
Week 6 @ Dolphins: W
Week 7 Patriots: L
Week 8 Jets: W
Week 9 @Bills: W
Week 10 Lions: W
Week 11 Vikings: L
Week 12 @Lions: W
Week 13 @Giants: W
Week 14 Rams: L
Week 15 Packers: W
Week 16 @49ers: W
Week 17 @Vikings: L


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At this point I would be shocked if the Bears aren't undefeated when their Bye Week arrives.


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Wouldn't be shocked is different than rhe Bears will be undefeated. I'm not positive (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can go up to Green Bay and win in Week 1.

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6-10. Will be more fun to watch, but I suspect either injuries or Mitch or both will fail them. Here’s hoping America is right and I am wrong.

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But that isn't what you said.

Saying you wouldn't be shocked if they were undefeated is not the same as saying I would be shocked if they aren't undefeated.

The first says you are expecting them to not be, but it is possible they could be.

What you said is you are expecting them to be undefeated and would be suprirsed if they arent....

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But that isn't what you said.

Saying you wouldn't be shocked if they were undefeated is not the same as saying I would be shocked if they aren't undefeated.

The first says you are expecting them to not be, but it is possible they could be.

What you said is you are expecting them to be undefeated and would be suprirsed if they arent....


You're right. I just reread my post. I misspoke. I meant I wouldn't be shocked.

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I don't like that early bye, no bye weeks should be before week 7

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I’m sticking with a number between 4-12 and 6-10.


Mack is a good player but our defenses have already been good the last couple years. It’s the offense that needs to improve to get us over the hump and I’m worried about our O-line being bad which could sink the offense on its own. I’m also not sure what to make of Nagy.

If they lose 10-12 games this year the cost they paid for Mack would be monumental





You’d have a better argument if Pace had proven to have a strong acumen for the draft. Mack is a proven commodity, Paces draft picks up until this point, are not.



That aside, I’m hopeful they’ll be better.. but after so many years of mediocrity and mismanagement I’m at a ‘prove it’ point with all of this.

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I’m sticking with a number between 4-12 and 6-10.


Mack is a good player but our defenses have already been good the last couple years. It’s the offense that needs to improve to get us over the hump and I’m worried about our O-line being bad which could sink the offense on its own. I’m also not sure what to make of Nagy.

If they lose 10-12 games this year the cost they paid for Mack would be monumental





You’d have a better argument if Pace had proven to have a strong acumen for the draft. Mack is a proven commodity, Paces draft picks up until this point, are not.



That aside, I’m hopeful they’ll be better.. but after so many years of mediocrity and mismanagement I’m at a ‘prove it’ point with all of this.



I'm hoping Pace is canned and Nagy is coach and GM

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NME wrote:
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I’m sticking with a number between 4-12 and 6-10.


Mack is a good player but our defenses have already been good the last couple years. It’s the offense that needs to improve to get us over the hump and I’m worried about our O-line being bad which could sink the offense on its own. I’m also not sure what to make of Nagy.

If they lose 10-12 games this year the cost they paid for Mack would be monumental





You’d have a better argument if Pace had proven to have a strong acumen for the draft. Mack is a proven commodity, Paces draft picks up until this point, are not.



That aside, I’m hopeful they’ll be better.. but after so many years of mediocrity and mismanagement I’m at a ‘prove it’ point with all of this.

The cost is objective, not subjective. Pace’s past picks don’t make it a lesser cost.

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