Every time I see this thread I think it says "Haunted Trails Menu".

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That alone deserves some hate. Pretentious prick nicknamed himself.

At least he was humble enough not to give himself King as a nickname. When you're as great and a killer like Kobe you can call yourself Mamba.

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LBJ has three rings as the alpha. Kobe has 2.

LBJ wins

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This is the first time you've been correct in this thread.

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LBJ has 1. Wade was the alpha in Miami.

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Nah.

Wade's career was on a downward spiral before LBJ rescued him from irrelevance. LBJ was visiting the ECF every year while Wade was putting up 50 on shitty teams.

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I've learned a few things.
1) surefire HOFer. The 13 pts and 4 assists hit me like a ton of bricks
B)He sacrificed his greatness for the betterment of the team
3)Manu went toe to toe with Kobe. It was a draw.

Then how is LBJ close to Jordan?

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Well at least you didn't profess to learn the ways in which Crawford was better. I surely didn't.

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Familiarize yourself with the spark and talent of of a game changing 6th man
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/origi ... 042116.nba

There are worse career stats in the HOF. Do you watch the league?

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Never said LBJ wasn't a better winner than MJ. I said he's more talented.

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These are the type of discussions that only guys like FF and Imu can appreciate. Your game changing 6th man has a VORP of 10 for his career while Manu's is 47. Crawford's Vorp is also negative over the past 3 seasons. Some game changer. Doesn't even meet the league avg per season for his career.


Manu's WS 106 for his Career. 60 for Crawford. Again some game changer.

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JC can break ankles with the best of them tho. He's got moves.

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He is the true youtube sensation. I can remember when the Bulls drafted him out of Michigan. The And one mixtape thing was all the rage during the street hoop era. He came down the way and played in a street ball tournament that my guy was throwing. This had to be the Summer of 2000 I think. He did the little roll on the ground (concrete at that) move that the And one guys used to do got up and booked a three and everyone in the stands jumped out of their seats. I just knew he was destined for NBA stardom. Think he blew his knee out later on in the summer somewhere else and it essentially killed his rookie year. He definitely had handles but there was always something missing from the rest of his game.

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I'm a PER guy myself. And let's get real. GinobIli was a piggybacker with great teammates and played low minutes. Hey, we all love the try hard guys, especially when they don't look the part of an NBA star, But Crawford was just more talented, more diverse, and could carry a team moreso than the try hard guy.

Jamal Crawford was a career loser that couldn't scratch the playoffs for the first 9 years of his career. Name one meaningful game that he has ever played in. Ginobili was a factor during each of the championship teams that he played on while Crawford was a stat padder with some of the worst shot selection of any player the last 2 decades. Not to mention his shoddy defense and terrible finishing ability.

While Ginobili attacked the rim Crawford was always scared of contact. When was the last time Crawford locked up on defense? That's right never.

He fooled people into thinking he was a 6'5 point early in his career but the truth is that he was nothing more than a poor man's Sedale Threat. He could light it up (and often did) once the game didn't matter anymore.

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OK. Let me ask a question and then I'll let this go. Would 30 yr old Steve Nash be on track to be a HOFer if he didn't go play for D'Antoni?

This doesn't make sense. Steve Nash's career didn't begin at 30.

You can't definitively state that the only reason that Ginobili is a Hall of Famer because of Popovich.

That's a new one. Ginobili is generally regarded as a great player. Crawford isn't. Crawford at best is a good role player.

Never carried a team anywhere but the lottery.

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I'll try to be polite about this.... talent IS what wins games. Golden State isn't out there just trying harder than people.

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2 time all star, 13 pt, 4 assist bench option Ginobili is a HOFer? OF COURSE Crawford is a role player. As was Ginobili. Again, was 30 yr old Steve Nash on track for the Hall of Fame? Or was he on track after 30, when his game amped up like 3 notches?

Don't know what that has to do with Ginobili or Crawford. Even if he became a hof post 30 is still has no bearing on Crawford nor Ginobili.

Steve entered the league at 23 or 24 and played behind Jason Kidd. Actually the Steve Nash that played for Don Nelson was on his way to being a special player. He didn't simply get good under Dantoni. He was a better player than Crawford when he played for the Mavericks. Look it up.

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That's not an answer. All you have to do is answer the question and you won't hear from me again on this subject.

What is your point then will address it.

If you are saying that Ginobili is only a Hall of Famer because of Pop you'd be wrong.

As far as D'Antoni goes His system is junk when he doesn't have guys like Nash running it. He didn't "make" Steve Nash. Nash would have been in the hall had he remained with Nelson too.

yes he was on track for the Hall.

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Steve Nash is one of the most overrated players in NBA history.

LTG who was the most surprising player in the summer league?

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He was actually one of the more underrated players of his generation.

Crawford is overrated by GarPax haters. Career loser.

Wendell Carter was the biggest surprise along with Kevin Knox. Both should have been top 5 players. Bagley was a disappointment and Trae Young unsurprisingly was a flop.

Collin Sexton was impressive too.

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