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Paralyzing fear of losing causes them to just give away a game against a QB who did everything he could to blow it. Rodgers was ass. But cowardly playcalling on offense and a total breakdown by the safeties torpedoes them.


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I abandoned ship on the Bears yeeeaaaarsss ago but man this one even hurts me.

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Shudda drafted Mahomes that guy has big dick energy.

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D looked great first half.

The QB is very concerning.

It's just 1 game. I think they improve this year.


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Paralyzing fear of losing causes them to just give away a game against a QB who did everything he could to blow it. Rodgers was ass. But cowardly playcalling on offense and a total breakdown by the safeties torpedoes them.

R-E-L-A-X.

You lost because you faced an all time great QB determined to come back and destroy the league. Mack and some of the first play calling showed you glimpses of promise.

Overall a good week 1 for a bear fan.

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And that great QB with only one ring only won because Kyle Fuller dropped an INT.

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Rodgers was determined to lose the game but the Bears refused to adhere to any sort of cohesive defensive strategy. The pass to Allison was great, other than that he was trash.


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And that great QB with only one ring only won because Kyle Fuller dropped an INT.

You’re saying that like it’s an insult. You wish you could watch a great Bears QB with ONLY one ring. :lol:

But for real, Bears showed they can compete a little tonight. It’s good to have that potentially back.

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1 TD for the offense is pathetic.

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Those last 3 drives on offense gave me a horrifying vision of the next 5 years of the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky era. It's Rex and Jay all over again. We're going to be playing not to lose yet again with a stacked defense because of the lack of a quarterback that anyone can put any real faith in. Pace will cycle through offensive coordinators and possibly a head coach or two thanks to his new contract and the good will that the Mack trade bought, and we'll be treated to the regular stories about Mitch "putting it all together" and "gaining valuable experience" every time he flukes out the kind of win he couldn't get tonight. He'll play just good enough to get overpaid when his rookie deal is up and because he's the GM's guy. By 2023 it will be time to blow it all up for good like the post-Trestman era due to the quality defensive players aging and/or leaving and there will be nothing to show for it aside from a 10-6 or 9-7 season or two with no playoff wins.


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Hampton on 720: "I've heard people say Aaron Rodgers is the best player they've ever seen? Well now you can put an apostrophe on that."

'Aaron Rodgers.

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Hampton on 720: "I've heard people say Aaron Rodgers is the best player they've ever seen? Well now you can put an apostrophe on that."

'Aaron Rodgers.


Apostrophe, asterisk, exclamation point, whatever

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Those last 3 drives on offense gave me a horrifying vision of the next 5 years of the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky era. It's Rex and Jay all over again. We're going to be playing not to lose yet again with a stacked defense because of the lack of a quarterback that anyone can put any real faith in. Pace will cycle through offensive coordinators and possibly a head coach or two thanks to his new contract and the good will that the Mack trade bought, and we'll be treated to the regular stories about Mitch "putting it all together" and "gaining valuable experience" every time he flukes out the kind of win he couldn't get tonight. He'll play just good enough to get overpaid when his rookie deal is up and because he's the GM's guy. By 2023 it will be time to blow it all up for good like the post-Trestman era due to the quality defensive players aging and/or leaving and there will be nothing to show for it aside from a 10-6 or 9-7 season or two with no playoff wins.

Oh come on. If anything (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky showed you he is extremely turnover and mistake averse, which is like the POLAR OPPOSITE of Rex and Jay.


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OB- "If Halas saw these players shucking and jiving, he'd pick up a bench and whack 'em over the head!"

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Those last 3 drives on offense gave me a horrifying vision of the next 5 years of the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky era. It's Rex and Jay all over again. We're going to be playing not to lose yet again with a stacked defense because of the lack of a quarterback that anyone can put any real faith in. Pace will cycle through offensive coordinators and possibly a head coach or two thanks to his new contract and the good will that the Mack trade bought, and we'll be treated to the regular stories about Mitch "putting it all together" and "gaining valuable experience" every time he flukes out the kind of win he couldn't get tonight. He'll play just good enough to get overpaid when his rookie deal is up and because he's the GM's guy. By 2023 it will be time to blow it all up for good like the post-Trestman era due to the quality defensive players aging and/or leaving and there will be nothing to show for it aside from a 10-6 or 9-7 season or two with no playoff wins.

Oh come on. If anything (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky showed you he is extremely turnover and mistake averse, which is like the POLAR OPPOSITE of Rex and Jay.

Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.


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I'm on record here that dude was a good player.

I-L...screw it....

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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.


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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.


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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.

Again, you see a guy getting 6-8 yard chunks and think its a bad thing. Would you rather he force it into triple coverage? You didn't see enough of that with Cutler?!

Miller needs to learn how to come back to the ball when plays break down. He actually started doing that near the end of the game, but he's a rookie WR in his first game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also needs to learn to trust Allen Robinson's ability to go up and get it. Gabriel and Burton were huge let downs, Sims was so bad they should probably just use Braunecker as a blocking TE until Shaheen gets back.


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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.

Again, you see a guy getting 6-8 yard chunks and think its a bad thing. Would you rather he force it into triple coverage? You didn't see enough of that with Cutler?!

Miller needs to learn how to come back to the ball when plays break down. He actually started doing that near the end of the game, but he's a rookie WR in his first game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also needs to learn to trust Allen Robinson's ability to go up and get it. Gabriel and Burton were huge let downs, Sims was so bad they should probably just use Braunecker as a blocking TE until Shaheen gets back.


And that is why you don't sit the starters in that preseason game.

2nd Year QB
New coach and offense
New Receivers

QB needs to run the offense and develop timing/learn the adjustments with his receivers in a real game setting. Not practices or scrimmages with others, but against the first team defense of an opponent. That showed tonight when the going got tough and Mitch had no connection with his receivers and looked scared.

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America wrote:
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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.

Again, you see a guy getting 6-8 yard chunks and think its a bad thing. Would you rather he force it into triple coverage? You didn't see enough of that with Cutler?!

Miller needs to learn how to come back to the ball when plays break down. He actually started doing that near the end of the game, but he's a rookie WR in his first game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also needs to learn to trust Allen Robinson's ability to go up and get it. Gabriel and Burton were huge let downs, Sims was so bad they should probably just use Braunecker as a blocking TE until Shaheen gets back.

You have to contextualize the times (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky successfully ran the ball alongside the times he pulled it down too quickly under the least bit of pressure (at times with open receivers) or was forced to pass and was completely inaccurate. He's not athletic enough for it to be any kind of sustainable strategy, especially if teams don't respect his ability to pass for anything more than checkdowns while under fire.


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You have to contextualize the times (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky successfully ran the ball alongside the times he pulled it down too quickly under the least bit of pressure (at times with open receivers) or was forced to pass and was completely inaccurate. He's not athletic enough for it to be any kind of sustainable strategy, especially if teams don't respect his ability to pass for anything more than checkdowns while under fire.

Nobody was really ever open downfield the whole game and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is not comfortable just chucking it up to Robinson. He needs to start being comfortable with that, I agree. But saying the Bears lost this game because of him is crazy. Not with all the other dumbass shit they did.


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You have to contextualize the times (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky successfully ran the ball alongside the times he pulled it down too quickly under the least bit of pressure (at times with open receivers) or was forced to pass and was completely inaccurate. He's not athletic enough for it to be any kind of sustainable strategy, especially if teams don't respect his ability to pass for anything more than checkdowns while under fire.

Nobody was really ever open downfield the whole game and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is not comfortable just chucking it up to Robinson. He needs to start being comfortable with that, I agree. But saying the Bears lost this game because of him is crazy. Not with all the other dumbass shit they did.

I mean I didn't really say anything to suggest they lost exclusively because of him. That kind of second half collapse can't ever be blamed on a single person, outside of the head coach. But precisely the issue with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is I fear we're going to have lots of games where we conclude it's not "all his fault" while not expecting him to do anything more than run a training wheels offense, not turn the ball over, and hope for the best.


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Paralyzing fear of losing causes them to just give away a game against a QB who did everything he could to blow it. Rodgers was ass. But cowardly playcalling on offense and a total breakdown by the safeties torpedoes them.

R-E-L-A-X.

You lost because you faced an all time great QB determined to come back and destroy the league. Mack and some of the first play calling showed you glimpses of promise.

Overall a good week 1 for a bear fan.


The Packers aren't very good. Rodgers is going to wind up in the hospital next week if he plays against the Vikings.

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The Vikings aren't retarded. They are not going to lay off the Packers when they have em against the ropes. Mike Zimmer isn't gonna bench Hunter and Griffen in the 3rd quarter no matter what the score is.


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Those last 3 drives on offense gave me a horrifying vision of the next 5 years of the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky era. It's Rex and Jay all over again. We're going to be playing not to lose yet again with a stacked defense because of the lack of a quarterback that anyone can put any real faith in. Pace will cycle through offensive coordinators and possibly a head coach or two thanks to his new contract and the good will that the Mack trade bought, and we'll be treated to the regular stories about Mitch "putting it all together" and "gaining valuable experience" every time he flukes out the kind of win he couldn't get tonight. He'll play just good enough to get overpaid when his rookie deal is up and because he's the GM's guy. By 2023 it will be time to blow it all up for good like the post-Trestman era due to the quality defensive players aging and/or leaving and there will be nothing to show for it aside from a 10-6 or 9-7 season or two with no playoff wins.


This is overly depressing, but probably true.


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Russell Wilson is going to cut these losers to pieces.


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