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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:07 am 
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I started getting a little concerned after the first TD. After the second I kind of picked up a mantra in my head that went a little like this....

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Tough loss, but most expected to lose anyway. Just the way it happened makes it a bitter pill to swallow.

Pretty much the same for me ... probably for MANY others as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
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T-Bone wrote:
I started getting a little concerned after the first TD. After the second I kind of picked up a mantra in my head that went a little like this....

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Tough loss, but most expected to lose anyway. Just the way it happened makes it a bitter pill to swallow.

Pretty much the same for me ... probably for MANY others as well.

Yep. Once they came out in the second half....."here we go...ugh"

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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:29 am 
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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.

Again, you see a guy getting 6-8 yard chunks and think its a bad thing. Would you rather he force it into triple coverage? You didn't see enough of that with Cutler?!

Miller needs to learn how to come back to the ball when plays break down. He actually started doing that near the end of the game, but he's a rookie WR in his first game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also needs to learn to trust Allen Robinson's ability to go up and get it. Gabriel and Burton were huge let downs, Sims was so bad they should probably just use Braunecker as a blocking TE until Shaheen gets back.


Sims was terrible in this game. He was given perfect passes and it was like he was playing without hands!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:32 am 
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ZephMarshack wrote:
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Great, so it's Shane Matthews or Kyle Orton all over again, only with the hype and front office protection of Jay or Rex. The end result is still the same: a team that's going to rely heavily on their defense because the quarterback doesn't play well enough to be trusted. Maybe like Alex Smith he too can start playing at the level his draft position would suggest for another team years down the line.

His biggest mistake tonight was forgoing Miller and Robinson for Burton and Sims. But on the list of "reasons why the Bears lost" that is not even in the top 5.

I saw the same happy feet in the pocket that's plagued failed Bears quarterbacks for years. Where you saw him running as the result of conscious strategy on the part of Nagy, I saw a guy who was looking to run cause he couldn't throw accurately while feeling the least bit of pressure.

Again, you see a guy getting 6-8 yard chunks and think its a bad thing. Would you rather he force it into triple coverage? You didn't see enough of that with Cutler?!

Miller needs to learn how to come back to the ball when plays break down. He actually started doing that near the end of the game, but he's a rookie WR in his first game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also needs to learn to trust Allen Robinson's ability to go up and get it. Gabriel and Burton were huge let downs, Sims was so bad they should probably just use Braunecker as a blocking TE until Shaheen gets back.

You have to contextualize the times (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky successfully ran the ball alongside the times he pulled it down too quickly under the least bit of pressure (at times with open receivers) or was forced to pass and was completely inaccurate. He's not athletic enough for it to be any kind of sustainable strategy, especially if teams don't respect his ability to pass for anything more than checkdowns while under fire.


Yu cannot put this on Mitch. He didn't call the plays, Nagy did. Nagy decided to SIT ON THE LEAD and it cost them the game along with terrible defense in the 4th quarter. Nagy had one thing correct. HE needs to look in the mirror at the game plan he went with.

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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
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You have to contextualize the times (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky successfully ran the ball alongside the times he pulled it down too quickly under the least bit of pressure (at times with open receivers) or was forced to pass and was completely inaccurate. He's not athletic enough for it to be any kind of sustainable strategy, especially if teams don't respect his ability to pass for anything more than checkdowns while under fire.


Nobody was really ever open downfield the whole game and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is not comfortable just chucking it up to Robinson. He needs to start being comfortable with that, I agree. But saying the Bears lost this game because of him is crazy. Not with all the other dumbass shit they did.


Yep!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Same ol Bears
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Paralyzing fear of losing causes them to just give away a game against a QB who did everything he could to blow it. Rodgers was ass. But cowardly playcalling on offense and a total breakdown by the safeties torpedoes them.

R-E-L-A-X.

You lost because you faced an all time great QB determined to come back and destroy the league. Mack and some of the first play calling showed you glimpses of promise.

Overall a good week 1 for a bear fan.


The Packers aren't very good. Rodgers is going to wind up in the hospital next week if he plays against the Vikings.


Agree. The Vikings clearly are the class of the division. The Packers were extremely fortunate to win this game. I HATE that they did it but is was more that the Bear's lost the game than it was the Packers won it. The Packers, give them credit did come out with a victory but they are not a very good team. Perhaps the Bears will figure out how to CLOSE GAMES. Look at it this way, the fact that they won three quarters of the game didn't happen much in the last 7-8 years or so, so therefore it MAY be a start?

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