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It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:17 am 
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Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

What exactly has "Bears football" won in 30 years?

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Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

What exactly has "Bears football" won in 30 years?


The NFC.

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Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

What exactly has "Bears football" won in 30 years?


The NFC.

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Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

defend the. The offense?
Did you watch last year?

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Uh, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does a really good job on options reading the defense and handles all the misdirection and fakery really well. For all the hand-wringing over the offense I have not seen any confusion or miscommunication between players. Everyone is on the same page and its extremely crisp.

The issue with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is he is making almost none of the throws more than 15 or so yards downfield and at times is struggling to read opponent defenses on passing downs. Whether its physical with his arm (I doubt it) or he has some form of the yips (I would side with this) nobody knows for sure, but that's the problem. Its a big problem and one that can easily torpedo his career if he doesn't figure it out eventually, but the saying he hasn't mastered these motions and formations is utterly false. Watch the games.


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Nagy gets praise for being the innovator, but doesn't have the personnel on offense to execute to the level of sophistication he is aiming for. Isn't it incumbent upon him to fit the game plan to the skills of his players? For (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, who still has his training wheels on, that would mean simplifying the offense to where his QB is comfortable running it. Not only were the Bears running complex sets with motion last night, Mitch was repeatedly checking out of plays with "kill" calls. Do you really want him doing this, when he's still learning to read pro-defenses? It's asking a lot to ask of a young QB, whose confidence is shaky. It seems (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does best with scripted plays where he doesn't have to go through progressions and make check-down calls.

Bear football means ball-control and a sustained running game on offense, while the defense keeps you in games or even wins them outright. This is the most the team is capable right now. When you take Mitch out of his comfort zone, he throws picks like he did last night. The Bears are lucky there were only two and the Seahawks capitalized on neither of them.


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The offensive line and position guys are more than capable of running this offense. I think they actually have a really good group of pass catchers and players who can make something happen with the ball in their hands.

Miller is getting better every down. I wish Mitch could take advantage of it because with a good QB he would've had 150+ yards receiving last night, he was finding every seam in that Seahawks defense.


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Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

I heard the announcers say that he has a strong arm.

Which games are they watching?

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Panther pislA wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

I heard the announcers say that he has a strong arm.

Which games are they watching?


What makes you think that he doesn't have a strong arm? How many passes has he underthrown? Most of the time that he misses are overthrows. One of the interceptions was a clearly underthrown pass, the other int was tipped at the line.

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Most people on this board dont watch or even read about the games.


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Panther pislA wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

I heard the announcers say that he has a strong arm.

Which games are they watching?


He displayed a strong arm last year. Not sure where it went.

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Dignified Rube wrote:
Nagy gets praise for being the innovator, but doesn't have the personnel on offense to execute to the level of sophistication he is aiming for. Isn't it incumbent upon him to fit the game plan to the skills of his players? For (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, who still has his training wheels on, that would mean simplifying the offense to where his QB is comfortable running it. Not only were the Bears running complex sets with motion last night, Mitch was repeatedly checking out of plays with "kill" calls. Do you really want him doing this, when he's still learning to read pro-defenses? It's asking a lot to ask of a young QB, whose confidence is shaky. It seems (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does best with scripted plays where he doesn't have to go through progressions and make check-down calls.

Bear football means ball-control and a sustained running game on offense, while the defense keeps you in games or even wins them outright. This is the most the team is capable right now. When you take Mitch out of his comfort zone, he throws picks like he did last night. The Bears are lucky there were only two and the Seahawks capitalized on neither of them.


You could also say that the Hawks were lucky on one of the interceptions. How lucky were the Hawks that more of Wilson's passes were not intercepted also? Sometimes you also have got to give the defense some credit for making good or great plays against you, right?

What I am saying is that in virtually every game and in virtually every play, players including the quarterback make mistakes. Wilson made a lot of mistakes in that game. Rodgers in the GB game made a lot of mistakes. Yet to see the comments on this board, these guys are perfect and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a bust as a quarterback. I think it is silly reasoning and also untrue.

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Panther pislA wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

I heard the announcers say that he has a strong arm.

Which games are they watching?



Yeah, no shit.

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Panther pislA wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
It makes no sense they want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to work with complex formations and motions when he hasn't mastered the basics yet.

Why not simplify the offense for him? There needs to be less style, less cute plays, and more just blowing the opposing teams asses off the ball. In other words, go back to playing Bear football.

No reason Bears can't win the NFC North this year. Monsters of the Midway are back, at least on defense.

I heard the announcers say that he has a strong arm.

Which games are they watching?


He displayed a strong arm last year. Not sure where it went.


I never saw it last year

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Dignified Rube wrote:
Nagy gets praise for being the innovator, but doesn't have the personnel on offense to execute to the level of sophistication he is aiming for. Isn't it incumbent upon him to fit the game plan to the skills of his players? For (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, who still has his training wheels on, that would mean simplifying the offense to where his QB is comfortable running it. Not only were the Bears running complex sets with motion last night, Mitch was repeatedly checking out of plays with "kill" calls. Do you really want him doing this, when he's still learning to read pro-defenses? It's asking a lot to ask of a young QB, whose confidence is shaky. It seems (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does best with scripted plays where he doesn't have to go through progressions and make check-down calls.

Bear football means ball-control and a sustained running game on offense, while the defense keeps you in games or even wins them outright. This is the most the team is capable right now. When you take Mitch out of his comfort zone, he throws picks like he did last night. The Bears are lucky there were only two and the Seahawks capitalized on neither of them.


You can't put a label on what "Bear football" means anymore. THis is an entirely different offense under Nagy and the definition of Bear football is not ball-control and a sustained running game. Clearly Nagy has a vision for his offense and is working on implementing it. Parts of it are already established as in the very improved performance of the offensive line from past year. It also includes a lot of gadget plays that mostly work thus far.

Clearly (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky isn't where they want him to be including (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. The analysts in the Hawk game were talking about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky really being a serious student of the game. He will figure it out. He isn't dumb. You can tell he is motivated to be a success and limiting his play book isn't the answer for the Bear's offense. I'd rather he make mistakes and learn from them than try and do what the idiot Fox and Friends did last season.

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