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Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.

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So did they find any drugs


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Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.

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Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.

Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:

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So did they find any drugs

apparently not, but expect them to plant some in the next day.

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Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.

Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


Nah...whoever actually has that is going a touch too far over the top.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.

The police chief in briefing the media within the last hour himself said it was no-knock and police didn't announce themselves.

The homeowner deserves applause for doing what any armed homeowner should do during a break-in.

and yes, drug use is a victimless crime. What does have victims, is our "war on drugs"

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.

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Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


Is it really that bad in the Northeast? I mean you hear those stories about West Virginia and rural Kentucky. Is there a common link, like socioeconomic status? I tend to take alarmism I see in the media as over hyping the problem, but the increase in overdoses is particularly concerning.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.

Even an off-duty cop would've done the same to him.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.


You promise? How is it, then, that none of the other 7 police officers involved in the raid shot the resident?

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


So your solution to what is pretty clearly a medical issue, is to put people in jail?


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Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.


You promise? How is it, then, that none of the other 7 police officers involved in the raid shot the resident?

we literally have dozens of cases of no knock raids that have ended in that manner. As I said in the OP, the biggest miracle is that the homeowner is alive.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -raid.html

Seriously, our police are fucking out of control.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


So your solution to what is pretty clearly a medical issue, is to put people in jail?


If putting people in jail for drug crimes worked, we would have solved this long ago.....but I suspect you agree with me on that.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


So your solution to what is pretty clearly a medical issue, is to put people in jail?


Hardly. But I don't advocate taking down cops after they've identified themselves either. Believe it or not, the best solution in dealing with someone who has made a mistake or been given the wrong information--it's not clear what exactly happened here--isn't to go ahead and shoot him. The dogmatic fundamentalism repeatedly displayed by Ogie and his acolytes simply isn't suited for reality.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.


You promise? How is it, then, that none of the other 7 police officers involved in the raid shot the resident?

Probably for the same reason the chief apologies to the guy who shot his officers.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.


You promise? How is it, then, that none of the other 7 police officers involved in the raid shot the resident?

we literally have dozens of cases of no knock raids that have ended in that manner. As I said in the OP, the biggest miracle is that the homeowner is alive.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -raid.html

Seriously, our police are fucking out of control.


This wasn't a no-knock raid. Read the sources you link to. Isn't this something you routinely mock LTG for?

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

If the police illegally entered the wrong address, what's the problem with the homeowner shooting them? I promise they would have done the same to him.


You promise? How is it, then, that none of the other 7 police officers involved in the raid shot the resident?

we literally have dozens of cases of no knock raids that have ended in that manner. As I said in the OP, the biggest miracle is that the homeowner is alive.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -raid.html

Seriously, our police are fucking out of control.


This wasn't a no-knock raid. Read the sources you link to. Isn't this something you routinely mock LTG for?

it's breaking and entering into a man's home. I'm glad he opened fire on the criminals who broke into his home.

If that man who was tragically murdered in Dallas was likewise armed, he would still be alive as well.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


So your solution to what is pretty clearly a medical issue, is to put people in jail?


Hardly. But I don't advocate taking down cops after they've identified themselves either. Believe it or not, the best solution in dealing with someone who has made a mistake or been given the wrong information--it's not clear what exactly happened here--isn't to go ahead and shoot him. The dogmatic fundamentalism repeatedly displayed by Ogie and his acolytes simply isn't suited for reality.


I haven't mentioned anything about "taking down cops". I simply responded to the bold above by pointing out that drug problems are essentially medical problems, and putting the people that supply the drugs in prison, while virtuous on some level, doesn't in any way address the underlying medical issue which is causing the symptoms you identify above.


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Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

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Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.

The police chief in briefing the media within the last hour himself said it was no-knock and police didn't announce themselves.

The homeowner deserves applause for doing what any armed homeowner should do during a break-in.

and yes, drug use is a victimless crime. What does have victims, is our "war on drugs"


I thought you are supposed to announce you have a gun and are going to use it before you do,isn't that one of the rules you are taught?

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chaspoppcap wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.

The police chief in briefing the media within the last hour himself said it was no-knock and police didn't announce themselves.

The homeowner deserves applause for doing what any armed homeowner should do during a break-in.

and yes, drug use is a victimless crime. What does have victims, is our "war on drugs"


I thought you are supposed to announce you have a gun and are going to use it before you do,isn't that one of the rules you are taught?

What?

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Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Armed men broke into a man's apartment last night and the resident, defending his family, shot two of the intruders.

https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/ ... g-address/

Did I mention it was police officers serving a warrant for a drug investigation? Did I also mention that they served the warrant at the wrong address and the homeowner was 100% innocent?

Thank God he shot the bastards and is alive to tell about it as most of these cases where the police no-knock raid an innocent man don't end well for the homeowner. He even got he police chief to apologize.

Perhaps it's a bad idea to 1: militarize our police and 2: have them perform SWAT style raids to police victimless crimes, especially when they don't even have the correct address

Breaking and entering into a lawful gun owner's home does have consequences.


According to the more detailed story that links to the article you cite, this wasn't a no-knock raid. The police knocked, announced themselves, and then began entering the premises after no one responded. The resident then shot at the police. You sure this is a scenario you want to applaud?

Additionally, calling drug trafficking a "victimless" crime strikes me as a cliche that holds little, if any, validity. Take a trip through Western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Southern Vermont (areas that have some of the highest overdose rates in the country) sometime and you will recognize the misguided nature of your hollow shibboleth. Much of New England has been reduced to a seemingly irreversible state of social collapse and personal ruin by a thriving drug trade.


Two cops got shot due to a mistake and Ogie calls them bastards. As for drug trafficking being a "victimless" crime, tell that to the fathers and mothers of children who have over dosed because of this poison or who have committed violent crimes in order to get drugs. It is amazing how wrong both of these things are.

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The Hawk wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.


We know you didn't post it. It is a joke. It means that you have arrived when someone does that to you.

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Nas wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.


We know you didn't post it. It is a joke. It means that you have arrived when someone does that to you.


I don't think it is anything funny. I think that it is pathetic that someone should be allowed to change the text of someone else's post. I think that this stuff needs to stop and the moderators or software person should stop it.

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The Hawk wrote:
Nas wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.


We know you didn't post it. It is a joke. It means that you have arrived when someone does that to you.


I don't think it is anything funny. I think that it is pathetic that someone should be allowed to change the text of someone else's post. I think that this stuff needs to stop and the moderators or software person should stop it.


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The more someone decries things that are PC, the more likely he is to be an easily triggered snowflake

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The Hawk wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.

When did I alter something you said? I'm going to report you for libel.

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The Hawk wrote:
Nas wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Well there goes little baby Ogie applauding some savage for attacking to fine men in blue just doing their job. That miserable homeowner should have just answered the door, got on the floor, let them strip search his wife, then made sure they planted some drugs in the apartment to get some charges filed so they didn't just waste their time. Instead this little baby shot at the poor officers just like little baby Ogie and the Boilermaker wanted him to.

I didn't nearly lose my left nipple at Da Nang to have pieces of garbage like Baby IMU and Baby Ogie and Baby Boilermaker come in and promote the shooting of our boys in blue, dag nabbit.


Nailed it, and now we have a prime candidate for the person operating "The Hauk" mult :lol:


This is funny? I reported this bullshit, BTW. Low lifes like Ogie, IMU, and Boilermaker like to alter things said. It is bullshit that it is allowed.


We know you didn't post it. It is a joke. It means that you have arrived when someone does that to you.


I don't think it is anything funny. I think that it is pathetic that someone should be allowed to change the text of someone else's post. I think that this stuff needs to stop and the moderators or software person should stop it.


Cry more, you miserable, geriatric, snowflake.

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