Mitch is a physical / athletic guy with good size and a decent arm. His accuracy leaves something to be desired but will likely improve. However, he strikes me as a lunkhead and he does not seem to have any football instincts. The best case I see is him developing into a slightly above average quarterback. Trading up to pick him second in the draft was a mistake.

I think you've got it directly opposite. I think he is very smart and several analysts have talked about how studious he is in this offense. As for his instincts, I think that right now his instinct is to run sometimes a little too early and not let the potential play develop. There are some very good quarterbacks, Rodgers, Wilson, Staubach, Young, Bradshaw, Moon, and Elway come to mind very quickly, and they learned as they gained experience. All of those quarterbacks knew how to use their legs to get first downs and make plays. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is in the same kind of mold.

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I hope you are right but I doubt it. By the way, that is a hell of a group of QBs that you listed for comparison purposes (Rodgers, Staubach, Young, and Elway are among the best of all-time). I think Matt Leinart, Mark Rypien, Mark Malone, Jeff Hostetler, Brady Quinn, Kerry Collins, Tim Couch, Chad Pennington, Mark Sanchez, and Heath Schuler are more likely to be apt.

I do not know if Nagy believes in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and am beginning to wonder how much Mahomes' success grinds Nagy's gears. Just a feeling, hopefully it doesn't cause problems between the two.

I mentioned those qbs because they all were good athletes who would take off and run especially early in their careers. The guys you mentioned were mainly non athletic, stay in the pocket guys who couldn't run a lick. I'm also not trying to say that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is going to be a HOF guy but he has talent including his ability to tuck and run.

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It's only a sample of 1 half and 2 minutes but the difference between Mayfield and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in pocket presence and throwing ability was night/day. We can all ignore the lame excuse of "learning new offense". Baker had a few scrambly moments and near picks but he was always looking downfield to rip it 15+ yards.

Nagy needs to take the training wheels off Mitch. Let's see if the kid can swim.

I don't see it as a lame excuse at all. Nagy's offense is complicated. The difference between it and Fox's is like the difference between night and day. When you look at what has gone on thus far, the opportunities for scoring are better than they were last year. Unfortunately Mitch hasn't executed them well in some instances. Also, I think that Nagy is also learning as a head coach. I think, for example, that he is still figuring out how to use his backfield guys. I don't like what he is calling for Cohen and he doesn't run Howard enough for my taste.

I think that Nagy is like a kid on Christmas that has unwrapped a shit load of new toys but can't figure out which ones he is going to play with first.

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Mayfield looked good but now teams are going to gameplan him. The obsessive compulsion Bears fans to compare every QB in the league to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is exhausting.

Bears fans look for reasons to be miserable.

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It's like whichever QB around the league has so much as a good half is suddenly towering over Mitch. Then they kind of fade, because you know the NFL is really difficult, and everyone moves on to someone new. At least half of these alternatives that at one point and time have been anointed are no better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky right now. At least one looks objectively worse so far this season.

No he doesn't. We might have to wait all year to see Mitch throw for 300 yards and multiple TDs in the same game.

Simply by virtue of his coach trusting him to make NFL throws Watson has been better than Mitch this year.

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Yes we are all waiting for Anthony Miller and Allen Robinson to take 200 yards worth of short passes for YAC to goose Mitch's stats. This is no slight against the Bears receivers, I think they have looked good this year, but you swap them with Watson's and the story for Watson is abysmal. Not saying at all Mitch can't succeed with what the Bears have, but the Bears skill players are much better suited for a QB playing well than the Texans who are just stone cold playmakers.

Get NFL Game Pass my man. Your Watson thoughts are just so off. He throws the ball 15+ yards regularly. Mitch has done it like once all season, it was a INT, and his coach didn't let him do it again the rest of the game. That's alarming.

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he swims with training wheels? fucking weird.

Great. He's throwing 15+ yard passes to maybe the best guy in the league for those types of throws. Then he bumbles around the backfield making horrible plays and then drives over. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has not been what has killed Bears drives this year, he's just not extending them. Nor is Watson. Bears are 10th in the NFL on 3rs down, Houston is 26th.

And before you move onto the OL excuse...the Texans OL is definitely quite bad but Lamar Miller seems to overcoming it just fine. Top 5 in the league in rushing, which eliminates yet another excuse for the Texans terrible 3rd down conversion rate.

Totally agree. Wondered why they didn't go down field again? Don't think Nagy trust him. We'll see

Mitch can be better with more experience and if they can fix his mechanics. He is not an old dog forced to learn new tricks. Rather, he's teachable, unlike Cutler.

Let's excuse him to some extent for being in his 2nd offense in the same amount of years as a pro. This coaching staff has to undo the damage was done to him last year under Fox, when he was allowed to develop bad habits with his feet. Part of Mitch's problem is a lack of discipline about throwing where he shouldn't and getting happy feet when there is no pressure. He should take notes from Rodgers who is a master at staying in and moving around the pocket.

He isn't going downfield because it will be at best be a wasted down and at worst be intercepted. Nagy knows better than to put Mitch in a position to fail.

And Watson simply cannot run well enough to run the offense Nagy wants.

You're overreacting way too much to two games. He's going to destroy the Giants this weekend.

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They can't stack the box against Houston.. Watson will light em up..everybody is stacking 8-9 guys against us..no body fears Mitch.

Who do you think has more TD this year? Mitch or Baker Mayfield.?

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That's already progress compared to Mitch. Right now NFL teams want Mitch to have the ball in his hands.

NFL teams vastly prefer to be on offense, but thanks for chiming in with your thoughts Dr. Football.

Right, teams are worried about Hopkins and Fuller in ways that apply to very few other WR across the league.

And (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has more TD this year than Mayfield. Two through the air and one on the ground. Mayfield has a TD reception. I suppose we will count that? I mean it doesn't have a whole lot to do with playing QB. And Mayfield has actually only played in three less halves of football this season than Mitch. What's your point?

Right, teams are worried about Hopkins and Fuller in ways that apply to very few other WR across the league.

And (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has more TD this year than Mayfield. Two through the air and one on the ground. Mayfield has a TD reception. I suppose we will count that? I mean it doesn't have a whole lot to do with playing QB. And Mayfield has actually only played in three less halves of football this season than Mitch. What's your point?

The Bears' defense has as many TD catches as the offense does.

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And both units have more receiving TD's than six other NFL teams, including the defending champs. Bears have as many passing TD's as Atlanta.

The whatabout game with QB weapons is dumb. Teams are not worried about Houston's offensive line or average ass Lamar Miller.

Simple as this. I need to see (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky ball out when the script is no longer in effect. Own the game and be the reason why the Bears won.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been perfectly fine at everything except throws over 20 yards, at which he has been truly dreadful. Your need for him to "ball out" is just fan idiocy. His job is to not turn it over, which aside from one half against Seattle he's done a good job at, and keep the offense moving forward. The Bears 3rd down % being as high as it is a good testament to the positive things he has done. If you read the national media they seem to be thinking everything is hunky dory for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, which is way too lenient. But holy shit has the local media and Bears fans taken what so far has been an average-ish performance by (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and decided its the worst thing ever. And then on this board you have people who are desperate for him to fail because...I dont know, they want to be proven right about something? I dont even understand that. And FavreFan is just trolling. Anyone who genuinely thinks Watson, who has actively lost the Texans two games, has been better than Mitch this year is crazy.

The happy feet complaint has to be my favorite. Booger McFarland, apparently a QB expert, said his footwork was bad on one play and now all of Bears nation has decided "uh oh (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has bad footwork". Like Bears fans have any idea what good footwork even looks like Its so funny how they just latch on to these stupid things announcers say as if they are fact.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will never be the reason the Bears won. Just like the defense or running game will never be the reason the Packers win a game. Or how Bortles will never be the reason Jacksonville wins.

Its just how this iteration of the team is built. If you want an elite QB because you think that's just your right as a fan, get over it. You dont have one, at least not this year and I'm willing to bet not next year either. You can look covetously at what KC has, but KC's defense is almost league-worst. They are going to get pasted in the playoffs the way every team with their identity gets pasted.