No it's not.

Nagy's system is very complex. Maybe the game looks a bit fast for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. It should after the plays Logains was calling last year. Give (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky the rest of the season. Then judge him.

You are just a negative Caller Bob. You would have given up on Drew Brees at this point in his career.

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Mitch has only played 15 games. Cutler had 4 years.

Let's maybe wait a bit before declaring Mitch will never win a game or is nothing but average.

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Give him 14 more games. Fox and Loggains did nothing to contribute to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's growth as an NFL QB in year one. He has to be reprogrammed. 14 more games then judge all you want.

Yep.

Though I must admit I will judge along the way too. Fairly or unfairly.

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At times, the game looks a little fast for him based on watching from my couch. Looking forward to being at the game tomorrow and seeing the whole field.

Absolutely! This rush to judgement by everyone on QBs is simply amazing.

This time last year Watson was a HOFer. This year he look average at best.

After 2 games Mahomes is a HOFer.

After a few games Tribusky is a bust.

One half of football and Mayfield is better than Tribusky.

It is absolute madness.

No one right now knows how any of these guys will play out in the NFL. Give it some time and it will all play out. But rushing to judgement is jus dumb.

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Give him four seasons. If he shows no improvement over that span or starts getting worse then move on. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly not a Paxton Lynch situation where simply doesn't even belong in the league. If the Bears give up on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky they will have to live with the risk that he goes somewhere else and finds success.

Do people even know that Steve Young's first two years were with Tampa and that they gave up on him after he threw 8 TD's vs 13 INT's his second year? Everyone has forgotten Jake Plummer was even in the league, but man he went to Denver and got pretty damn good. The stats aren't there but he was leading them to some extremely sucessful seasons. You cant account for guys who hit a stage in their life where they just decide they'd rather sit on the porch with the dogs than be an NFL QB, but Plummer was on track to be very successful through his early/mid-30's. We've already talked about Smith and Brees.

Its a hard position and you've got to deal with a lot of ups-and-downs. You dont think the other shoe for Mahomes is going to drop? Wait until he has to deal with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb for the first time. Or what life without the best TE and (arguably) best WR in the NFL is like. Watson is just drowning out there, he looks like his feet are weighed down with 50 lb bricks...after looking so sharp last year now he's just slow and way too deliberative.

At this stage in his career Rodgers was still on the bench. This would be the season after his team finished dead-last in the North at 4-12 and started out being literally shut out 26-0 by the Bears in the opener at Lambeau. You dont think people would be freaking out if the Bears had a QB who couldn't even see the field through all of that? This place would be at DEFCON 0. The missiles would be in the air.

Really? Because he has yet to fuck up a single read on RPO or failed to have everyone on the field on the same page. I think he just has no confidence in his arm past 20 yards and has developed some sort of yips where he simply cannot throw beyond that distance and know where the ball will land.

He made a retarded read against the Seahawks that should've been intercepted but other than that I think he's done a fine job surveying the field.

Antonio Brown is the only WR you can say is the best in the NFL. There is no current argument that Hill is better.

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Nah, there's definitely an argument. AB is 30 years old now, its definitely possible he's lost a step. Still a great player and he's had a 4 year run on top, but eventually it has to come to an end. AB took Megatron's crown and now it looks like they opportunity may be opening up for someone new. JuJu Smith-Schuster has looked solidly better than AB so far this season, but of course I'm not willing to go as far as saying he's a better player than Brown.

Tyreek is there with a few other guys who you could make decent arguments for being the best WR in the NFL right this moment.

Nope. It's Brown and then Odell and then everybody else.

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Beckham is obviously in the conversation.

You can see what I mean by FF's meta trolling strategy though.

Even I don't know what you mean by that. These are facts:

I don't dislike the bears. This is not to point out that the rivalry has been one sided, it's just the truth. I obviously want GB to beat them but other than that I generally want them to be at least moderately good.

I don't think Mitch is good or will ever be very good. I said months before the draft that I thought he was the worst top QB prospect.

I believe Antonio Brown is the best WR in the NFL and there's no other WR in his "tier". Odell is a somewhat distant second.

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We've got a SB caliber D, we're a QB away from greatness. The only D that is better than us is the Rams.

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Jacksonville and Minnesota are better.

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Its ok, it really doesn't bother me. Its the one reason to keep a board tab open, the rest of the board is basically boomer's screaming at each other about who even knows. Though I am glad you consumed so much UNC football in 2016 to form such an enduring opinion on Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky! Was that you or spmack? Oh wait, spmack was the one who said he watched all (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's games at NC State.

Brown is at the precise age the decline comes for almost every truly top tier WR in league history. Andre Johnson got hurt a bit and lost a step, Calvin Johnson flat-out retired, Randy Moss had his monster 23 TD year then just fell off a little (he had really fallen off a bit before then, but that year Brady was just locked-in)...it just seems like a rule that after that age-30 season WR can definitely remain productive, or even elite, but they just cant keep pace with the younger guys who still have their peak athleticism. Tyreek Hill and Odell Beckham right now are simply more explosive and faster than AB is. Just the way Hill moves now...he's clearly among the best if not THE best.

Jags maybe.. I think were better than the Vikes.

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Chicago and Jacksonville are the two top with Minnesota not too far behind. Rams aren't in the conversation really because their linebackers are so poor. You take the quality of the Bears secondary, clearly the weakest link on the Bears D, then compare to what LA is starting at LB...no contest. Amos, Jackson and Callahan are way better than...who's the best Rams LB...Corey Littleton? Rams LB's are literally who's.

Fuller as our #1 corner creates issues. If he was slightly above average we would be the best. I wish Callahan could fill that role. He is the Kwiatkowski of our secondary. Almost never misses a tackle too.

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Imagine if they had gotten Sherman instead of re-signed Fuller. He looks really rejuvenated in SF. That was their plan A too.

We would be undefeated and favorites to win the division. The Packers would have Fuller too

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Fuller has such terrible ball skills. He actually doesnt get flat out beaten very often, I mean its the NFL every CB gets beat sometimes, but he's just hopeless on contested balls. He was all over Lockett and just did nothing to get in the way of the pass. Then there's the horrible dropped interception against Green Bay. Fuller just has no awareness of where the ball is or how to disrupt a pass. Its a shame because he really is in the right place much more often than not. For the vast majority of NFL DB's this situation is reversed.

All he has to do is turn around

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He doesn't even know the ball is coming. I was wrong to say he has terrible ball skills, because really he has NO ball skills. I dont think he knows where the ball most of the time.

This is something he has just refused to get better at. I dont think he likes football very much and is not interested in putting in any more work than he has to, especially now that he is paid. Look, as long as other teams dont abuse the fact that he is fundamentally incapable of actually covering anyone due to his stone hands and lack of awareness, he'll be somewhat effective by just appearing to cover guys. QB's making their reads with see his jersey close to their receivers' and move onto the second option.

Also Eddie Jackson needs to get it going a little.

That is what I am doing. To me this guy is like a college senior experience wise. He's still learning and you are right about Nagy's system.

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I don't think Fuller is as bad as some people say he is. As I see it, he is smart and covers well. His problem is that he doesn't look for the ball on the long pass. If he could ever get that figured out he'd really be good.

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Fuller is inconsistent. That’s most likely the best way to describe him without breaking down everything about his play.

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Mitch blows

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