Could be pretty interesting, but my guess is Kentucky and a few other schools still pay better.

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I don't think this is a big deal for the NCAA. They don't really rely on 1 and done players much to the degree that losing them makes a big difference. Their big problem is the days are coming in some way where the players that do matter, who are the ones who stay at least 2 years and more like 3 or 4 and excel at that level want the ability to control their own likeness.

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I'm sure the top schools pay better, because it is an inconvenience to the player.

My question is how this affects the player's draft status the following summer. Because as more (all?) G League teams are owned by their NBA franchises, does this open up the door to the inevitable drafting at the end of high school but having to spend the first year in the G League the way that Kareem had to spend his first year on the UCLA JV (when he was still Lew)?

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At some point (Likely 2022) they expand the draft and turn the G-League into even more of a true minor league where more players are on two way contracts.

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You'd be wrong.

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Eventually the G-League will be the farm system for the NBA. That is the plan and it is a good one in fact.

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How about this?

We take all of the top 25 at the end of the season. We count the teams that meet one or both of these two criteria.
1) The team is lead in scoring by a freshman.
2) The team has a player who is a freshman who makes one of the major All American teams.

Roughly how many teams do you think will fit that criteria?

There is only 1 team I am certain will.

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Its a silly criteria because the "blueblood" programs gobble up the top 50 players each and every year. Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona North Carolina will probably have between 15-18 of the top 30 Freshman on their roster each and every year. Thus the other 20 teams will possess kids that are not as talented. Your one and dones are found among kids that ranked in the top 30-40 of their class each and every year.


Once they steer your McDonald All American/top 50 kids to the DLeague the quality of the product goes down and people could care less. They want to see program changing kids. No one outside of Kentucky Alumni/student body will care about the product if they don't sign Anthony Davis.

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That doesn't make the criteria silly. Why not just give me a number?


I'm not sure what you are saying here. College basketball isn't popular because we want to see the best players. That's what the NBA is for. In fact, most college basketball fans HATE the teams with the best one and done players. I would be very happy if Duke missed the NCAA tournament all together this year.

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Why not just allow the guys to play in college, but to get paid by a sponsor? No one wants to see these guys in the D - League.

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They may. i am not saying that they will outdraw the college game but if you place these guys in outlying areas they may draw 4,000-5,000 people. One thing is for certain the ratings for college games would decline. Attendance for college games would decline as well.

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I gave you a rationale. A valid one at that. If you took the top 25 (McDonald's) All American players and spread them out over the top 25 teams each and every year more than half would lead their team in scoring.

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Yeah, and I have pointed out a large majority of the teams that matter don't have 1 and done players, and that most of the best players aren't 1 and done.

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This is what you aren't understanding. Kentucky is placing 5 one and dones in the league per year. Duke 3-4. Kansas 2-3. Arizona 2-3. Your comp isn't a good comp. You'd have to take the top 25 players (McDonalds) caliber players and and place one on each team. More than half would lead their team in scoring each year. Probably 18-20 to be honest.

The BlueBloods have a monopoly on one and dones.

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Tournament will still be popular. Regular season for sure though.

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If you have these guys play their games during the NBA off season I guarantee you that they will be a huge draw. The worst thing that they could do would be to have them compete with the NFL, NBA, Baseball playoffs etc. Just let them battle it out with baseball and get ready for the NBA season while playing immediately after graduating from high school. You probably could have some overlap with the NBA season but i wouldn't have their season parallel that of the NBA. It would be a huge mistake.

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D League is during the NBA season right now though right?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

This is great. Fuck the NCAA.

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There would be some interest but college basketball in of itself isn't a draw. your bottom 200 teams can't draw flies..

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Yeah but it should be switched. If they change the schedule and play their games in the summer they'd attract more people. They are in essence competing with the NBA and NFL for viewers which is a mistake. They also don't have the "next great thing" playing in it. This changes now. It would make a big difference.

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My point is not that the top 25 players aren't good. It's that they aren't what is making a majority of the teams in college basketball worth watching. That would be the case even if the small amount of one and dones that matter in college weren't there.

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That's just a nonsensical argument. Why not extend it to Division 3 athletics too?

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Again i don't think you understand the point. If the top players are only on 5-6 teams then of course they aren't going to make up the best players on the majority of the top 25 teams. My point is in regards to one and dones. Your point doesn't make sense because the top 25 players are only attending 5-6 schools every year.

Give or take a few

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Here is the NBA Draft Net mock draft for 2019.
You can count the number of 1 and done projections.
if you like
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft

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Does this include healthcare?

That doesn't refute my point at all. It probably helps it. I'm not saying that there aren't talented one and done players. I'm saying that a large majority of the teams that are really good to great don't have them and it's already doing fine.

This is the final AP Top 10 from last year.
Villanova
Michigan
Kansas
Duke
Virginia
Texas Tech
Loyola
Xavier
Purdue
Gonzaga

Of those teams, Duke, Villanova and Texas Tech were the only ones to have a one and done freshman drafted in the first round, with Villanova having it be their fourth best player who went last pick in the first round.

So, that's only two teams that you could say even relied on the one and done talent you are talking about.

That doesn't even get into the fairly inconsequential seasons had by teams with one and done talent like Alabama, Missouri(injuries did play a part) and Oklahoma. It also doesn't include Oregon, who had a one and done who played on a mediocre team and wasn't even putting up good numbers.

So, take away those players and it's not a remarkable difference.

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But those teams aren't what fuel the NCAA. Look at the preseason rankings each year. Those rankings are (top 10) are loaded with teams that have rock star freshmen. The finals are based off of tournament success thus the more you advance the higher your ranking. Preseason hype is generated by incoming Freshmen for the most part. Its why Duke Arizona N.C. Kentucky Kansas and Michigan State always head the list.

You remove rock star freshmen from those teams and the interest will wane.

If they go through with this the NCAA potentially may lose the top 50 or more players coming out of high school each year. There is no way it won't be crippled.

If you think I'm not on to something all you have to do is look at college baseball. No one cares about it for the most part. Why? because a Number of top guys go straight to the minors out of high school.

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Preseason rankings? Who cares? Those are meaningless by December.

Yeah some top teams have good freshman. They will no matter what.

Why would you watch college basketball now but stop if a bunch of one and done weren't there. Outside of Duke and Bol Bol none of them look that interesting this year anyways.

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Easy. When you remove the one and dones then your Dukes of the world stop being Duke and then they become Tulsa. Very few outside of the Dukies will want to see that.

The ratings for NCAA games will plummet and out the door goes the big TV deals. People will Duke for Zion Williamson. They ain't watching for the floor slapping 9th man.

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You simply don't know the average college fan. Big Ten basketball is still as popular as ever. I mean, it's ok if you just don't know much about it but Grayson Allen was the one EVERYONE was paying attention to last year on Duke.

Do you honestly think that Arizona was a big draw last year? They had the #1 pick.

The only freshman that truly was a big draw was Trae Young.

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