To my eye QB play has not really improved. A lot of these offenses now are almost QB-proofed, where the level of competency required to sustain drives from that position has been lowered significantly. NFL defenses will eventually catch up to this, my guess is by the post-season someone will crack the code. Whoever that is probably wins a title.

In the modern NFL, to a team like the Saints, yes that is pretty good. Especially considering it was their worst performance on that side of the ball all year.

Your boy Cam will have his hands full this week.

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So... that's a yes?

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Still not willing to call a defense that let up 34 to the Bengals elite. Are they the best? Probably, but you know as well as I that can change overnight.

Fuck, I forgot about that Bengals game. Lazor is doing great things in Cinci this year but yeah that's a big blemish on the resume.

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I think it would be an overreaction to not give credit to the players playing well simply because a lot of them are playing well. Now, it's possible that it is easier than it was 15 years ago but 3 years ago people were worried that every quarterback was going to be Nathan Peterman.

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Well the NFL landscape was dramatically different just three years ago, a point this conversation is illustrating. All statistical evidence and analysis points to it being easier to play QB than ever before, and significantly easier to play than just three years ago. There have been tangible rule changes that have made it easier as well.

But you're right, it could just be a coincidence that the most talented collection of QBs ever just happen to play in the NFL right now.

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Well, then I'm certainly glad our second year QB is one of those players taking advantage of it.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. There are 5 HOF talents playing at an elite level right now who are 35+. Are you saying that they are doing this because of rule changes?

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There was another elite one in the league a few years ago (Peyton) and numbers weren't like this.

I don't understand this post. Manning was completely dominant up until his very last year. In 2013, he had 55 touchdowns. In 2014, he had 39 touchdowns at the age of 38. He's a bad example of quarterback play being much harder 3 years ago.

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and I'm glad that you think he is.


Ben isn't playing at a HOF level now but I think the obvious question to your answer is yes.

Do you think Drew Brees is a better QB at age 39 than he has ever been before, even during what is traditionally considered his prime? Or do you think it's more likely that it's easier to perform now than it ever has been for him?

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I think his decline came much later than it did for quarterbacks of the past. What happened to him last year? His numbers were down by a good margin on a winning team.

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What decline? He's playing better than he ever has!

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How is he playing better than he ever has?

Remember, you can't compare statistics from even 3 years ago to know that.

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He hasn't thrown an interception all year. That's a pretty good indicator.

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Brick'd

I don't think this is the best year Brees has ever had but I do think this is prime Sean Payton in all his genius and glory.

He had Payton in his prime too. This is all very confusing. I guess I'll have to accept that quarterbacks are playing well because they are very good. You guys can think otherwise.

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I didn't say Brees was bad.

It's pretty simple actually, but I guess if you want you can keep believing that all of the offensive records being shattered this year is just one big coincidence.

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What records are being broken though? There are still some pretty huge single season records that were broken 3 years ago too.

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Most points ever scored after Week 1. Most points ever scored through 2 weeks after Week 2. Most points ever scored through 3 weeks after Week 3. Most points ever scored through 4 weeks after Week 4. Most points ever scored through 5 weeks after Week 5. Most points ever scored through 6 weeks after Week 6. Most points ever scored through 7 weeks after Week 7.

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So why couldn't that be true because there are a lot of really good quarterbacks?

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It could be true. I already said you might be right. But considering they changed the rules to make QB easier to play, the more likely explanation is that QB is easier to play.

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Perhaps the dumbest assessment ever.

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I was actually thinking about this and honestly I don't believe any one of the NFL's top 3 QB's are at their peak right now. The only possible exception is Brees.

What young quarterbacks (5 years or less) would you rather have than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky?

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Wentz, Mahomes, Goff and probably Mayfield. Watson and Garappolo I could go either way on. I have no faith in Watson staying healthy long-term and that clouds everything. No way am I taking any of the other rookie QB's this year over Mitch, you're just acquiring more uncertainty making that swap and I'm not sure how much, if any, potential is to be gained adding Darnold, Rosen, Jackson or Allen. I love Jameis but he's just not in this conversation, and it's kind of unfair because the media is out to destroy someone who I think has a good heart.

Also this coming draft is weak shit at QB (and just in general) so I don't think anyone is joining the league to disrupt this "club".

Btw I was looking at some unconventional names like Jacoby Brissett, who I think can be really good but has been totally forgotten by MANY, and I looked up Taysom Hill...Taysom Hill is already 28. That's kind of a let down, if he were five years younger I'd be all about him.

On the topic of Jacoby Brissett, if I were in the market for a QB there is definitely a strong case to give up a 1st for him before giving up a 1st for Carr. And I'm a Carr guy.

btw I'd rather have (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky than Carr.