This really proves that the Bears are in a great position going forward. They objectively have a top 5 young quarterback. Get the kid some weapons and he may even look like Mahomes.

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Objectively top 6.

And (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has weapons. He has nothing lime a Tyreek Hill, who to my eye is now clearly the NFL's best WR (the FF batsignal has been lit), but it's not an excuse. Ant Mill and Burton are open almost every down, AR is great for contested catches and being a big target, Gabriel can fly and Cohen is his gadget. The Bears weapons can be improved but I don't think they are holding back Mitch.

I like what the Bears have, but Mahomes has a top 2 WR, top 2 TE and a top 5 RB. Watson has a top 5 to 10 WR and RB. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky doesn't have a guy who is top 15 at any of those positions. His job is harder because of that.

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I came across another one of these "(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky=BORTLES" people and surprise surprise it was a literallywho bugman who calls himself a fantasy football expert. I delight in having my interests as a fan contradict those of people who care about fantasy as these people are so stupid and wrong it's almost better to have them hating (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky than loving him.

Imo it's Hill 1 and Hopkins 2.

That's fine. Swap one of them for Allen Robinson and MANY are talking about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky differently.

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Ant Mill is open almost every play and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can't hit him consistently. You know I'm not a Mitch hater, but I'm not settling for this excuse. The Bears have good receiving options and the scheme gets them all open.

Great options > Good options

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Yeah but it's not like last year. These are NFL quality players, all of them would be big parts of any offense. I don't need to get into this game. I'd rather have Gabriel/Miller than Watkins/Conley and the Bears RB's are way better than Houston's. Not to mention to massive disparity in offensive lines between Chicago and Houston.

I still think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is better than Watson but it's not as simple as Watson has Hopkins and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky doesn't.

Yes, the Bears have NFL players at key offensive positions this year. That doesn't change the hand that Mahomes and Watson have. Do you think that you could trade Miller, Gabriel, Burton and Allen Robinson for Hill or Hopkins? No fucking chance. There is a reason why. Having elite players makes a huge difference.

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If Mitch and Miller had some chemistry we'd be freaking about Ant Mill's future.

Sounds like there is an issue with Miller being in the right spot according to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Nagy. These plays are mostly timing. It will click pretty soon. Maybe he can be that guy for Mitch but no one else has a chance to be a top 5 to 10 anything.

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It's not. We both knows AB is still the 1.

Hill is behind Hopkins and Odell too. Possibly behind Thielen and Michael Thomas. He has no case as the best WR.

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If you swapped O Lines and WR corps Houston does it in a second.

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Watson and Mahomes are still better.. But Mitch has closed the gap.. He's improving.

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If Watson can stay healthy he looks like the better player.

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Yea well there's a reason everyone passed on Watson even though the guy has basically all the makings of a QB who can lead a team to a title.

Almost the same amount of teams passed on Mahomes, who's biggest red flag as a prospect was "Oh he's too good at throwing deep and likes to do it too much!".

NFL teams are dumb.

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Could be. Last year was out of this world. Plateaued so we can wait and see. I just needle 312 as he makes grand pronouncements early on and sticks to them. It is admirable.

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I have to admit being lazy and not really knowing much about Mahomes. Like who his dad was.

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Ok you read Drew Magary's bullshit column, congrats.

As did you. But he linked to his sources, not like he was just making that shit up.

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Yeah he had a 2nd round grade because he was too careless. He still can be but a good coach is able to get him to tone that down.

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Well how fine is the line between Jay Cutler and Brett Favre? Take both of those guys at age 22-ish and tell me you had the scouting genius to discern their different paths. If I'm an NFL GM that shit worries the hell out of me. You don't know if Mahomes will listen to coaching out there and reign himself in. I don't mean that maliciously either, I think a lot of QB's go out there intending to do what they are coached to do but they see a window they think they can thread and there's an instinct that takes over. Can be ready good, can be really bad.

Also Mahomes is nowhere near as smart as Watson. I actually don't know who has better intelligence between ilovetittiess and Mahomes, both come off as a bit dim.

I'll tell you this though, nobody is tougher than Watson. I've seen Mahomes get a little rattled and those worst-case circumstances he's endured would be considered good days for Watson. I don't think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or Mahomes have the fortitude to play through the type of injuries that make doctors say they probably shouldn't be on a plane. There will come a day when Pat Mahomes is under siege, like truly being terrorized, and we'll see how he handles it. You don't know until it happens. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has never really had that either.

I agree with this. That's what I was saying during the year before we got (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. First round quarterbacks are simply lottery picks with better odds of success than later round picks. When you need a quarterback, take the best available one with a first round grade and hope it works out. If it doesn't work out, try again in 3-4 years. That's also what made the trade up of 1 pick to get (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky so dumb but at some point I think I should just get over it as Pace has made up for it in other ways.

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He was also coming from a program that regularly makes ungifted QBs look like stars and I don't believe he ever took a snap under center in college. Mahomes was a huge arm with a lot of question marks. I don't even think he would be the QB he is right now but for Reid. I'm confident he would have been horrible under Fox last year.

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by trading the rest of his picks away?

Well they traded the picks for Khalil Mack which was probably a good use if them. Especially since this 2019 draft looks putrid.