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Nas

Post subject: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:42 am

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Needs to calm down. He has one of the best young coaches in the league and he's upset because he isn't winning with that roster yet. The Lakers have been in every game and LeBron blew one with his free throw shooting and was outplayed by Jimmy Butler down the stretch in another.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:45 am

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Maybe he can come coach the Bulls. Or Timberwolves.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:47 am

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Nas wrote:

Well Magic does know something about getting rid of coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if Lebron is in Magic's ear.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:56 am

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FrankDrebin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Well Magic does know something about getting rid of coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if Lebron is in Magic's ear.

Walton is the best coach the Lakers have had since Phil left. The entire league knows Walton is good. Hopefully Magic and LeBron don't have their eyes on a Tyrone Lue. This ain't the East.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:57 am

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Nas wrote:

FrankDrebin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Well Magic does know something about getting rid of coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if Lebron is in Magic's ear.

Walton is the best coach the Lakers have had since Phil left. The entire league knows Walton is good. Hopefully Magic and LeBron don't have their eyes on a Tyrone Lue. This ain't the East.

One of the few times I've respected Pat Riley is when he told Lebron and Wade to stfu about removing Spoelstra.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:58 am

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There's no evidence Walton is a good coach, but the Lakers are just a bad defensive team. Tough to coach around that.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:01 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

There's no evidence Walton is a good coach, but the Lakers are just a bad defensive team. Tough to coach around that.

I'm worried about you.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:04 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

There's no evidence Walton is a good coach, but the Lakers are just a bad defensive team. Tough to coach around that.

I'm worried about you.

Why?

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:05 pm

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Nas wrote:

Needs to calm down. He has one of the best young coaches in the league and he's upset because he isn't winning with that roster yet.

Agreed. He should be more positive.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:09 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

There's no evidence Walton is a good coach, but the Lakers are just a bad defensive team. Tough to coach around that.

I'm worried about you.

Why?

I count on you for good sports thoughts and occasional trolling. The good sports thoughts are becoming inconsistent. Walton is the 2nd best young coach in the league. He's overachieved every year with crap and he's helped develop the young players.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:18 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

There's no evidence Walton is a good coach, but the Lakers are just a bad defensive team. Tough to coach around that.

I'm worried about you.

Why?

That's pretty vague and I'm not sure it's even accurate.

Give me some specific evidence of why he's a good coach. I don't see any. He had a great early season run filling in for Kerr awhile back, but that team was so loaded it's impossible to tell what the coach even does. He has a .372 winning percentage with the Lakers. You can say he's had a shitty roster but he got shitty results. Not exactly overachieving.

Hoiberg is a god awful coach and his resume is infinitely more impressive at this point of their coaching careers. I need my good young coaches to actually win games, I'm weird like that.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:33 pm

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:42 pm

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Nas wrote:

Sounds like he agrees with my initial post in this thread

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:54 pm

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Shooting made Kuzma an obvious fit next to LeBron James, but his canny cutting has taken that to another level. Kuzma skulks the baseline when his defender gawks at the ball. That is a handy skill playing with LeBron; the Lakers run a lot of their offense through the elbows, and LeBron attracts eyeballs lording over the action there.

Even better: Kuzma executes those baseline sneaks amid the chaos of semi-transition, and that is where the Lakers live.

About 64 percent of Kuzma's 2-point baskets have come via assists, up from about 53 percent last season. James alone has assisted him 20 times already.

Kuzma should stay in his starting role. Brandon Ingram should too, even if he deserves more run leading second units when LeBron sits. As I wrote before the season, playing James, Kuzma and Ingram together with a center -- JaVale McGee -- shifts the Lakers toward giant lineups.

That might be their best hope for offense-defense balance. The current starting five, with Lonzo Ball rounding it out, is plus-13 in 31 minutes so far. McGee has been, frankly, incredible by his standards over an unthinkable 27 minutes per game. (The Lakers need to be careful, starting yesterday, about running McGee into the ground.)

The Lakers, an awful defensive team overall, have allowed only 98 points per 100 possessions with LeBron and McGee on the floor, a mark that would rank second in the league, per NBA.com.

That starting five shoves Josh Hart, an essential two-way bruiser, into backup duty. Hart might just have to accept that. He is versatile enough to log 25-plus minutes off the bench, especially if the Lakers stop experimenting with silly things like playing Ball and Rajon Rondoextended stretches together.

They might even think about giving run to a super-big lineup featuring no traditional point guard -- something like Hart, Ingram, James, Kuzma and McGee/Johnathan Williams. Hart needs to play more than Rondo, period.

Luke Walton is solving a weird roster puzzle. Kuzma has solved part of it for him.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:58 pm

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I like Zach Lowe too. He's the Bill Barnwell of NBA writers. I don't see anything disproving my statement though. Where's the evidence that Walton is a good coach?

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:08 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

:lol:

I like Zach Lowe too. He's the Bill Barnwell of NBA writers. I don't see anything disproving my statement though. Where's the evidence that Walton is a good coach?

Lowe used data to make his point.

Following the NBA for one. His first year they wanted him to tank for a lottery pick and they had to force him to do that. The Lakers clearly overachieved last season. That was a 20 win roster in the West.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:26 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

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I like Zach Lowe too. He's the Bill Barnwell of NBA writers. I don't see anything disproving my statement though. Where's the evidence that Walton is a good coach?

The Lakers sucked last year. You don't overachieve when you miss the playoffs by like 10+ games. If the best evidence you can point to of him being a good coach is him going 35-47 with a shitty roster I feel comfortable with my opinion that there is currently no evidence he's a good coach.

Barnwell uses data too. You seem to have latched on to his one comment that doesn't. Lowe also gives opinions on players on Twitter without always backing it up with data - all sports writers do.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:29 pm

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Luke Walton takes heat from Magic Johnson

Luke should probably get a blood test, ASAP.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:29 pm

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FF I can only judge him and the other guy by the things that you posted.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:32 pm

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Nas wrote:

FF I can only judge him and the other guy by the things that you posted.

That's weird. They have entire archives online that you would give you a much better idea of their merit than simply reading what I post from them.

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Post subject: Re: Magic Johnson

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:59 pm

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This has LeBron's prints on it

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