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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:36 pm 
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The first couple weeks were fun but this looks like one of the worst teams in the league. I'm not even sure when they'll ever win again: Raleigh and Philadelphia have been automatic losses for years. They're finished.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:40 pm 
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stop it johnny drama.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:41 pm 
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What sucks is that there is no fixing this. You can not have 2, 7, 19 and 88 on the roster and fix this.......and none of them are taking their contracts and leaving anytime soon. By the time you rebuild a team around them they will be awful except Kane and it wont matter anyways.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:46 pm 
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Hawks just need to go full tank and hope for Jack Hughes

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You are right. But I think Toews has been good this year. They had a lead tonight and couldn't hang on and it was the bottom lines that gave up those goals tonight.

Those 4 players gave you a great 10 years.


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Oh I know they have. What sucks is that there is not enough time to build another team around them. Aside from them, the Cat, Crow and I guess Henri, this team is a pile of shit and there is little money and less time to make it better.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:18 am 
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yeah. I'm not mad about it though. I'm going to watch the games and enjoy what I can.


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Thats why I said after the last game that its just going to be a season of enjoying watching DeBrincat and Kaner score a bunch of goals. There is just no depth.

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Welp they fooled us the first few games. They are starting to play more like I figured before the season started. Certainly depth is an issue. But like in recent years, they can’t put three solid periods together, and they can’t consistently bury the puck.

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The blue line is bad, sure Forsling and Murphy coming back would help, but it's still an awful blue line at the end of the day with forward lines containing a bunch of bottom 6ers who belong in the AHL.

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Well Q wasn't the first coach fired.

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Blackhawks missing Hossa's presence on the ice alongside Toews. With the ability of teams to eat/retain salary, Toews et al are still movable, but the Blackhawks would have to eat at least 25% of their salary. Tough to justify trading Toews and retaining that much of a cap hit unless you sign an all-star caliber player with the remaining ~$7.5 mil cap space. If the Blackhawks really wanna be off of Toews and are willing to retain a decent chunk of his salary, some of these younger rosters trying to find their way beyond the early rounds of the Stanley Cup playoffs might be interested in bringing in an in-decline veteran player with extensive playoff experience.


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Blackhawks missing Hossa's presence on the ice alongside Toews. With the ability of teams to eat/retain salary, Toews et al are still movable, but the Blackhawks would have to eat at least 25% of their salary. Tough to justify trading Toews and retaining that much of a cap hit unless you sign an all-star caliber player with the remaining ~$7.5 mil cap space. If the Blackhawks really wanna be off of Toews and are willing to retain a decent chunk of his salary, some of these younger rosters trying to find their way beyond the early rounds of the Stanley Cup playoffs might be interested in bringing in an in-decline veteran player with extensive playoff experience.


The Hawks fell all over themselves signing Seabrook to a 8-year extensive with all that crap about continuity and leadership. McDonough and Co get stiffies just thinking about 1000 game ceremonies and the like. Do you really think they're going to trade Toews especially when he has gotten off to a decent start this season? Enjoy the Hawks veteran core. They'll be here for a while.

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Hawks just need to go full tank and hope for Jack Hughes


FWIW, saw him play a couple of weeks ago against W. Mi at Yost. Talking to some hockey guys after the game, they were not impressed with how he played or his on ice body language.


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ANALYSIS: Blackhawks make it all but official—The Rebuild is on
John Jaeckel November 6, 2018



My partner Gatekeeper and I theorized, a number of weeks back on the RinkCast, around the possibility of Jeremy Colliton replacing Joel Quenneville as head coach of the Blackhawks during this season. To be fair, and honest, while both of us felt Colliton’s matriculation was likely at some point in the future, neither of us saw it in the cards during this season.
But, there you go.
And there’s a lot to unpack here, obviously.
First, Quenneville and his staff are taking the blame for the Blackhawks’ 6-6-3 start and 3-game losing streak that foreshadows what could be a miserable November stacked with quality opponents.
And it does beg the question: did Q suddenly devolve from being a Hall of Fame coach, or is this roster arguably the worst he’s had to work with in 10 years? The answer is pretty clearly the latter.
That said, did it seem at times that Q’s passion might have been doused this season? Frankly, his post-game comments at times suggested he wasn’t going to tilt against windmills—as though he had quietly accepted the bad hand dealt to him.
Second, was it one thing—like say a miserably bad power play, or recently healthy scratching Nick Schmaltz—a player the organization has been pushing as a “future first line center,” evidence to the contrary be damned. Probably it was many things. And clearly the organization has been high on 33 year old Jeremy Colliton since the day he was hired to coach the Rockford Ice Hogs.
But don’t kid yourself; this is for the most part a highly unpopular move by a GM—well, an entire front office— that is not currently held in high regard by most of the fanbase.
Taking all of that together, this move seems to suggest the Hawks’ rebuild is pretty much fully on—even if the organization won’t say it.
Longtime Scotty Bowman right-hand man Barry Smith—a noted teacher of the game—has been moved from within the organization to assist Colliton—and this may be to add a bit of coaching gravitas to Colliton, who is the same age or younger than Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook and Corey Crawford, and may get some sideways glances from the likes of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane as well.
So another question has to be asked: if you are looking to simply jumpstart an underperforming veteran roster, don’t you replace Q with a Darryl Sutter or a Ted Nolan? Yes, that’s what you do.
This move, clearly, feels like the “Silent Rebuild” (a term first coined here on The-Rink.com) is evolving into the “Obvious (but unstated) Rebuild.” Colliton is a very progressive hockey thinker, but, at this stage of his career, he simply doesn’t walk into an NHL dressing room full of multiple Cup winners and command full respect. At least not right away (hence, perhaps, the Smith move).
Sure, it’s possible, Colliton can press all the right buttons with this roster, catch lightning in a bottle, and win the Power Ball—and the Hawks will go deep into the playoffs without any extensive roster changes this year.
But more likely, there are going to be changes now throughout the organization. Everybody—except perhaps the front office who engineered today’s moves— are on some kind of notice.
Colliton is the Hawks coach of the future—the guy who is going to lead the next generation of Hawk talent (wherever that generation may actually be). He is not necessarily, make that probably not, the guy who is going to turn iron into gold with a current roster that lacks critical depth at center and defense.
And don’t be a bit surprised if the Hawks are somewhere between the wild card and basement of the conference on February 1—and some big sell-off moves happen over the ensuing thirty days. Maybe even sooner.
Like it or not, the coaching part of the rebuild is on. The question is, when will the roster start to catch up.

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This is kind of sad

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well sure am glad we got Q out of there

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Catching pieces on NHL Network. Team looks dead, especially the D.

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Yeah, they look like shit and they're out of position all the time. Fortin went in on a two-on-one with no idea that it wasn't a one-on-one and then missed on his shot. No head, no hands, it must be Fortin.

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Yeah, they look like shit and they're out of position all the time. Fortin went in on a two-on-one with no idea that it wasn't a one-on-one and then missed on his shot. No head, no hands, it must be Fortin.

The passing in their own defensive zone is terrible. I have barely caught sight of kane or toews.
Why not just trade them for whatever you can get at this point?

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For the record they did not introduce Colliton when introducing the statlrting lineup. Do they normally not do that? I seem to recall Q being introduced pregame.

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For the record they did not introduce Colliton when introducing the statlrting lineup. Do they normally not do that? I seem to recall Q being introduced pregame.



He was.


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For the record they did not introduce Colliton when introducing the statlrting lineup. Do they normally not do that? I seem to recall Q being introduced pregame.



He was.

I was listening for it. Never heard it. I dont think they announced it.

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For the record they did not introduce Colliton when introducing the statlrting lineup. Do they normally not do that? I seem to recall Q being introduced pregame.



He was.

I was listening for it. Never heard it. I dont think they announced it.


Was referring to Q. No clue on tonight, was watching Star Wars movies with my boys since my wife is out of town.


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Caught a Lazerus tweet that said the Hawks indeed chose not to introduce Colliton because fans were in the habit of doing a big "kyooooooo" chant when Quenneville was announced and they didn't want any issues with that. Yeah, imagine that, the wildly successful and heavily marketed coach had fans.

EDIT: that looks like "kyo" but there's no simply good way to elongate a Q

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Caught a Lazerus tweet that said the Hawks indeed chose not to introduce Colliton because fans were in the habit of doing a big "kyooooooo" chant when Quenneville was announced and they didn't want any issues with that. Yeah, imagine that, the wildly successful and heavily marketed coach had fans.

EDIT: that looks like "kyo" but there's no simply good way to elongate a Q


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I only watched the 3rd period. Did they say anything about the coach?

Kane is talking about him now...Sharp said it's not a coach's loss.


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I only watched the 3rd period. Did they say anything about the coach?


I only watched the first, and Pat and Eddie didn't exactly pull punches on the coaching tonight. Pat all but demanded that Gustafsson be benched for leaving wide-open attackers on both goals. I only hope history doesn't repeat itself and get them fired for "not being in communication."

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That would be bad. Might hurt the fan base too. If they pulled that right now I think my son would say Fuck the Blackhawks. Not fuck because I don't think he is a swearer. He'd be pissed and that's the fan they should try to keep right now.

Gustafsson...he's good and bad. Sometimes he does really well but it doesn't sound like that's the case tonight.


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