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Well, Tucker Carlson, through Fox News and his website The Daily Caller, has been a thought leader of sorts for the new right, albeit a more superficially respectable one than Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, or the assorted freaks who make eight-hour youtube videos about (((cultural Marxism))) hijacking video games. There's been an increase in far-right violence, right up to two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that. I don't think we should kill Tucker Carlson for what he does, but I don't know how much comfort he should be entitled to, as if he can preside over stoking these fires and then clock out at the end of the day and go back home. O'Sullivan's following tweets are useful here:




In no way shape or form is Tucker Carlson or Gavin McInnes fall into the alt right. Both are conservatives that are not into illegal immigration. Richard Spencer is 100% an alt right nut job. Being a Republican does not mean that you are alt right.

Lol are you trolling on the McInnes comment?

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two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that.


That's nonsense. First, because Trump is the most pro-Jewish/pro-Israel president there has ever been. Maybe the synagogue shooting is the fault of established anti-Semites like Carter or Obama.

But more than that, it's this canard that you and many on the far Left are pushing that "speech is violence". It's authoritarian and fascist.

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Well, Tucker Carlson, through Fox News and his website The Daily Caller, has been a thought leader of sorts for the new right, albeit a more superficially respectable one than Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, or the assorted freaks who make eight-hour youtube videos about (((cultural Marxism))) hijacking video games. There's been an increase in far-right violence, right up to two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that. I don't think we should kill Tucker Carlson for what he does, but I don't know how much comfort he should be entitled to, as if he can preside over stoking these fires and then clock out at the end of the day and go back home. O'Sullivan's following tweets are useful here:

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The disconnect in the liberal mindset is so baffling to me. They're enamored of the idea of being the #Resistance against Trump types, but if you take the far-right seriously as Nazis-in-waiting, & act accordingly, you get shamed & chewed out as going too far, or being impolite.

Physically showing up to protest Tucker Carlson at his manor requires courage, owing the inevitable police action, far-right hatred, liberal tsk-tsking, & possible long-term economic consequences. Carlson somehow risks *nothing* being a Nazi propagandist.

Call me crazy, but maybe Nazi propagandists should be made to feel the slightest bit of heat for profiting off the spread of white power violence in a season that has had, what, 6 distinct far-right terror plots/attacks? Including the worst anti-Semitic attack in US history?


It kind of reminds me of the shit Bill Maher took after 9/11. They are laying it on the line by going to his door more than they would be by merely tweeting about him.


Well, you are making yourself the arbiter of what is right and wrong, and you are monumentally stupid. So that's a problem.

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Well, Tucker Carlson, through Fox News and his website The Daily Caller, has been a thought leader of sorts for the new right, albeit a more superficially respectable one than Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, or the assorted freaks who make eight-hour youtube videos about (((cultural Marxism))) hijacking video games. There's been an increase in far-right violence, right up to two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that. I don't think we should kill Tucker Carlson for what he does, but I don't know how much comfort he should be entitled to, as if he can preside over stoking these fires and then clock out at the end of the day and go back home. O'Sullivan's following tweets are useful here:




In no way shape or form is Tucker Carlson or Gavin McInnes fall into the alt right. Both are conservatives that are not into illegal immigration. Richard Spencer is 100% an alt right nut job. Being a Republican does not mean that you are alt right.

Lol are you trolling on the McInnes comment?



No. The Proudboys are a bunch of conservatives. You understand the Nazis were a socialist party, correct?


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I'm pretty sure Gavin McInnes is a comedian. If a bunch of dopes take him seriously and tattoo roosters on their arms and stop jerking off, you should look at them.

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two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that.


That's nonsense. First, because Trump is the most pro-Jewish/pro-Israel president there has ever been. Maybe the synagogue shooting is the fault of established anti-Semites like Carter or Obama.

But more than that, it's this canard that you and many on the far Left are pushing that "speech is violence". It's authoritarian and fascist.



If the left had their way the 1st and 2nd amendments would be abolished. If you do not want free speech, go live in Canada. Enjoy being fined or imprisoned for saying something, someone doesn't like.


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I am not a fan of Tucker and find him annoying/wrong on most issues. That said, anyone who advocates or retweets that it is Ok to harass people at their homes where they have children I have no use for, that now includes Dan and the score for allowing such venom/hatred.

I mean seriously, how is he not suspended for this? He is advocating violence. Call me a snowflake fine, most of my views are on the left, but calling it like it is.


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Well, Tucker Carlson, through Fox News and his website The Daily Caller, has been a thought leader of sorts for the new right, albeit a more superficially respectable one than Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, or the assorted freaks who make eight-hour youtube videos about (((cultural Marxism))) hijacking video games. There's been an increase in far-right violence, right up to two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that. I don't think we should kill Tucker Carlson for what he does, but I don't know how much comfort he should be entitled to, as if he can preside over stoking these fires and then clock out at the end of the day and go back home. O'Sullivan's following tweets are useful here:




In no way shape or form is Tucker Carlson or Gavin McInnes fall into the alt right. Both are conservatives that are not into illegal immigration. Richard Spencer is 100% an alt right nut job. Being a Republican does not mean that you are alt right.

Lol are you trolling on the McInnes comment?



No. The Proudboys are a bunch of conservatives. You understand the Nazis were a socialist party, correct?

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Conservatives don't preach violence against people in the streets for differing opinions.

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I'm pretty sure Gavin McInnes is a comedian. If a bunch of dopes take him seriously and tattoo roosters on their arms and stop jerking off, you should look at them.

I think he tried stand-up and got away from it. I wouldn't call him an active comedian, even if people laugh at him. First and foremost he seems to want to be taken seriously.

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I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Conservatives don't preach violence against people in the streets for differing opinions.



From what I have seen out of them, they protest usually against antifa. And fights break outs. If you have some article where they or him are just advocating violence against peaceful people, I would love to read it.


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Well, Tucker Carlson, through Fox News and his website The Daily Caller, has been a thought leader of sorts for the new right, albeit a more superficially respectable one than Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, or the assorted freaks who make eight-hour youtube videos about (((cultural Marxism))) hijacking video games. There's been an increase in far-right violence, right up to two weeks ago in Pittsburgh, where a conservative murdered Jews because Trump wasn't killing them for him, and it's not unfair to look at right-wing propaganda outlets, all the way up to presidential-administration adjunct Fox News, for some accountability in that. I don't think we should kill Tucker Carlson for what he does, but I don't know how much comfort he should be entitled to, as if he can preside over stoking these fires and then clock out at the end of the day and go back home. O'Sullivan's following tweets are useful here:

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The disconnect in the liberal mindset is so baffling to me. They're enamored of the idea of being the #Resistance against Trump types, but if you take the far-right seriously as Nazis-in-waiting, & act accordingly, you get shamed & chewed out as going too far, or being impolite.

Physically showing up to protest Tucker Carlson at his manor requires courage, owing the inevitable police action, far-right hatred, liberal tsk-tsking, & possible long-term economic consequences. Carlson somehow risks *nothing* being a Nazi propagandist.

Call me crazy, but maybe Nazi propagandists should be made to feel the slightest bit of heat for profiting off the spread of white power violence in a season that has had, what, 6 distinct far-right terror plots/attacks? Including the worst anti-Semitic attack in US history?


It kind of reminds me of the shit Bill Maher took after 9/11. They are laying it on the line by going to his door more than they would be by merely tweeting about him.


You didn't at all explain how Carlson is a racist or how he incites the murder of people. You just listed bad things and said "he and Fox News are responsible for that" and then went on to endorse the idea that the people who conspired to commit a crime against Carlson and his family are somehow brave.

You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?


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I'm pretty sure Gavin McInnes is a comedian. If a bunch of dopes take him seriously and tattoo roosters on their arms and stop jerking off, you should look at them.

I think he tried stand-up and got away from it. I wouldn't call him an active comedian, even if people laugh at him. First and foremost he seems to want to be taken seriously.


Do you really think so? I don't. And I think it's fine to call him a bad guy because all these dipshits take him seriously and he obviously knows that and doesn't say, "Hey guys, this isn't a real thing." But to hold him- or anyone else- responsible for the actions of others isn't right and it certainly isn't liberal.

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Didn’t lil danny have to be escorted to his car by security because he was scared of a caller stalking him. Now he thinks it’s ok to go to a commentators house to harass them? I don’t think he thought this one thru.


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You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?

Oh stop being such a drama queen already.

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You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?

Oh stop being such a drama queen already.

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You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?

Oh stop being such a drama queen already.


No, after seeing you discuss politics, I've come to the careful determination that you are truly awful. You're willing to justify anything if it fits what you want to happen (really: What a few podcasts you listen to tell you should happen), apparently now including conspiracy to commit a crime against a conservative media personality and his family, and won't shy away from labeling people who confront you on your inane thoughts or outright attacks on others as some kind of bigot. Coupling that with seeing you attack a poster's children, you should probably be downgraded again to simply "human trash".


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You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?

Oh stop being such a drama queen already.


Says the one in histrionics bc the people decided border security is more important than fully automated luxury gay space communism.

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Okay, fine, then dispose of your human trash and stop shadowing me from thread to thread weeping over me getting mad at another poster.

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Okay, fine, then dispose of your human trash and stop shadowing me from thread to thread weeping over me getting mad at another poster.


If you didn't want negative attention you shouldn't have called another poster's children assholes, and you really shouldn't have doubled down on your statements instead of apologizing like someone who isn't trash.


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Okay, fine, then dispose of your human trash and stop shadowing me from thread to thread weeping over me getting mad at another poster.


God forbid we interact on a message board. Of the six gorillion places I could be, I want to talk to you man!

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You're just an awful human being. How do you live with yourself?

Oh stop being such a drama queen already.


No, after seeing you discuss politics, I've come to the careful determination that you are truly awful. You're willing to justify anything if it fits what you want to happen (really: What a few podcasts you listen to tell you should happen), apparently now including conspiracy to commit a crime against a conservative media personality and his family, and won't shy away from labeling people who confront you on your inane thoughts or outright attacks on others as some kind of bigot. Coupling that with seeing you attack a poster's children, you should probably be downgraded again to simply "human trash".

To be fair to CH, you gotta figure Carlsons kids are assholes though.

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Didn’t lil danny have to be escorted to his car by security because he was scared of a caller stalking him. Now he thinks it’s ok to go to a commentators house to harass them? I don’t think he thought this one thru.

Also relating that his child was afraid because " Nazis" might be coming to get them but someone actually coming to a persons house, breaking their door ( allegedly ) he seems to have no issue with?

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Didn’t lil danny have to be escorted to his car by security because he was scared of a caller stalking him. Now he thinks it’s ok to go to a commentators house to harass them? I don’t think he thought this one thru.

Also relating that his child was afraid because " Nazis" might be coming to get them but someone actually coming to a persons house, breaking their door ( allegedly ) he seems to have no issue with?


Apparently the broken door is noted in police reports.


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Anyone in support or favor of what happened to Carlson is wrong. There is no middle ground here. The guy is a pud, no argument here but to riot on his lawn is beyond the pale. The fact that people not only tolerate it but celebrate it... maybe things are too far gone to get back to normal.

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Anyone in support or favor of what happened to Carlson is wrong. There is no middle ground here. The guy is a pud, no argument here but to riot on his lawn is beyond the pale. The fact that people not only tolerate it but celebrate it... maybe things are too far gone to get back to normal.


I'm still waiting on concrete proof that this wasn't the kind of false flag operation many here in their echo chamber squeal about like stuck pigs.

Something still doesn't seem right given the kind of neighborhood this is. Just 19 seconds of video and no identifications arrests as of earlier this evening. And the loudest whiners are the same guys who believe the administration's doctored presser video.

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And we know FoxNews types revel in this same crap and use it for their own gains. Often.

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Anyone in support or favor of what happened to Carlson is wrong. There is no middle ground here. The guy is a pud, no argument here but to riot on his lawn is beyond the pale. The fact that people not only tolerate it but celebrate it... maybe things are too far gone to get back to normal.


I'm still waiting on concrete proof that this wasn't the kind of false flag operation many here in their echo chamber squeal about like stuck pigs.

Something still doesn't seem right given the kind of neighborhood this is. Just 19 seconds of video and no identifications arrests as of earlier this evening. And the loudest whiners are the same guys who believe the administration's doctored presser video.


Translation = I'm fine with intimidation and harassment at someone's home as long as I disagree with their politics.

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Anyone in support or favor of what happened to Carlson is wrong. There is no middle ground here. The guy is a pud, no argument here but to riot on his lawn is beyond the pale. The fact that people not only tolerate it but celebrate it... maybe things are too far gone to get back to normal.


I'm still waiting on concrete proof that this wasn't the kind of false flag operation many here in their echo chamber squeal about like stuck pigs.

Something still doesn't seem right given the kind of neighborhood this is. Just 19 seconds of video and no identifications arrests as of earlier this evening. And the loudest whiners are the same guys who believe the administration's doctored presser video.


Translation = I'm fine with intimidation and harassment at someone's home as long as I disagree with their politics.


No. I'm just asking the same basic questions for proof that you and your merry band of trolls routinely ask when liberals are making accusations against conservative trash.

Especially with the questionable facts at play here. The network's ratings are flagging, theyve been known to often play fraudulent video, the hosts love to play victim and this happened in a wealthy neighborhood with no consequences? Or video showing any faces.

Someone's crying wolf imo.

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Someone's crying wolf imo.


Yeah, the people breaking down Carlson's door and spray painting his driveway.


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Someone's crying wolf imo.


Yeah, the people breaking down Carlson's door and spray painting his driveway.


Earlier the door was just by your words, cracked, not broken down and no mention of spraypainting a driveway was mentioned. You're just getting more hyperbolic because this smells of fraud and you know it.

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