Quenneville and Eddie are really close, I think: not just the old boys' club of hockey but they're both horse racing guys too. I think they bought a horse together. I'm sure it was tough to be a company man tonight, but I'm also sure McDonough will offer some postgame notes, then insist without being asked that Scotty Bowman has no power for some reason, and leave the room in a huff.

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You like the Hawks broadcast team? Too much company talk and tomfoolery that is not funny. I definitely wouldn't mind a younger, more analytics based telecast.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

So you're suggesting the Hawks should get someone like, Dan Kelly Jr. to announce games?

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Blackhawk goal, scored by number 20, Al Secord.

John and Troy do the serious broadcast where it's all on them to convey what's happening, Pat and Eddie are less exact because you can see it for yourself. I like both approaches and wind up listening to a lot of radio every year. I've listened to a lot of radio teams around the NHL and John might be the best in the league. But the thought of an "analytics-based" hockey broadcast team is ghastly. If you want to introduce that aspect, do it at intermissions, when the shot/faceoff stats from the period have all come to rest and you can break it down. With the pace and intensity of the game, it isn't the time for beep-boop stat regurgitation. Baseball may allow for that, but I don't think hockey does. There's just not enough to quantify.

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That first period was a really tough watch...continuing into the early second. They definitely played better the rest of the way. But giving up 4 straight goals is not a recipe for success.

I'm leaning towards this being a mostly Stanley move. From the sound of what McDonough had to say, Stan has been given a chance to turn things around...but he doesn't have a particularly long timeline to get it done.

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Could not agree more.

I have also listened to some of the other markets' radio broadcasts...yikes!

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Not a mult.

One thing I would advocate for, and this is on the production side more than the booth side, is to shift from emphasizing shots on goal to a full triad of shot attempts: on goal, blocked, and missed. With the league getting so shooty, and a lot of those shots not making it to the goalie, you could paint a clearer picture of possession by including all the shots. But I don't think talking about players' respective Corsi For percentages will do much for your average audience members.

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I am pretty sick of the tv broadcast. It is just a giggle fest with the same tired jokes, "tree. tree, tree (3,3,3)" or comments about fans' food. Every tv production person is the best in the business while the broadcasts continue to have graphic errors and lots of issues during games from picture to sound.

Eddie will say one time down the ice, "never a bad idea to put a shot on net", and then "he needed to hold that shot just a second longer", and then "he should have passed it XYZ".

Pat Foley used to be the best on his dual broadcasts. Now his act is tired. They are still decent overall, but way too gimmicky and predictable these days.

I always loved hockey on the radio. Of course, long time observers know that used to be the only way to catch home games without going down to Chicago Stadium. I got used to listening to games.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

However bad you think our crew is, remember that most around the league are worse. Phoenix and Anaheim are especially bad.

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I hear ya. I was the world's biggest Pat Foley fan (I used to love Talon whining about penalties). But his act is stale. And Eddie is decent, but he gets too weird paired with Pat. I actually enjoy when Steve subs in.

The broadcast is still fine, but well past its prime.

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Steve Konroyd is terrible.

I'd like to hear Burish get a shot on a day when Eddie is out. Konroyd is boring.

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You just haven't listened to him while you're high. To be fair, neither have I.

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Yeah, konroyd is a rough listen. I don’t mind the Eddie and Pat show at all.

I also wouldn't mind moving Troy Murray from radio to TV for games where Eddie is gone. He has more personality than Konroyd (who doesn't) and has come a long, long way as an analyst since he first started and was largely just Hockey Santo.

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There's a variety of ways they could make the broadcast more enjoyable. Sprinkling in some stats would be one way. Obviously, you do not have the time like you do in baseball but it could still be added in small doses that won't bore the non-metrics fans. I'd much rather see that than somebody eating ice cream. Overall, I am just tired of Olczyk's company stances and fluffing of players. And like denis said, they are not funny. I don't hate the broadcast but I don't care if Olczyk or Konroyd is in the booth which should tell you what I think of Olczyk. Speaking of Konroyd, he has given several good interviews on the Score over the years. He'd be a good choice as a weekly guest for one of the shows.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

San Jose, Tampa, and Anaheim all stood out as very bad when I listened to them. I haven't made a habit of it, it's that bad. The guy in Columbus is baldly trying to be a poor man's Mike Lange. I listen to a fair bit of Winnipeg radio and their guy is pretty bad, too. Detroit's TV and radio teams are among the best, no shock there. Chicago, Detroit, and Long Island are probably the top three for hockey on the radio. I wonder how Judd's doing out in Boston, though, haven't dropped in on him yet.

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The first handful of times you listen to the Pittsburgh radio guy it’s cool. Then it is old fast.

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Elections have consequences.

I've enjoyed the local Toronto telecasts this year.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

Another horrendous defensive play to put the Hawks down early. Some of these guys really do give zero fucks.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Quenneville wasn't the problem...

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C'mon lottery pick!!

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

Couldn’t watch today. Was it bad?

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Elections have consequences.

It’s safe to say they won’t win another game this year.

Just added to the tradition unlike any other:

H 2017/11/09 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 2016/12/03 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 2015/10/14 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 0 W
H 2015/03/25 Philadelphia Flyers 4 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 2014/03/18 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 2 (OT) W
H 2012/01/05 Philadelphia Flyers 5 - Chicago Blackhawks 4 W
H 2010/03/13 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 2 W
H 2006/10/30 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 0 W
H 2004/02/24 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 2003/02/27 Philadelphia Flyers 5 - Chicago Blackhawks 2 W
H 2002/02/26 Philadelphia Flyers 5 - Chicago Blackhawks 4 W
H 2000/02/22 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 1998/12/19 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 1 W
H 1998/03/31 Philadelphia Flyers 3 - Chicago Blackhawks 2 W

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Usually in the NHL you see the new coach and a team catch fire but the Hawks just look dead. Is Lorne Colliton even surviving the rest of this year?

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I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood bank!

team laying down making a statement to management about firing Q?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

The way Keith handed them the puck in front of the net today makes it look that way.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Colliton had one year and change in the American league and a couple years in Sweden's version of such. That's a signing loser franchises make, the ones that are afraid to hire coaches who have done the job before. The Capitals were like that when they were a loser franchise.

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