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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:36 am

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Hey at least he saved his body by not having those meanies from the Steelers using him like a plow horse this year .

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:47 am

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Does he get tagged as the product of a system now? I mean what many called a random replacement guy earlier in the year will have just as good of a year as Bell did last year.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Does he get tagged as the product of a system now? I mean what many called a random replacement guy earlier in the year will have just as good of a year as Bell did last year.

I don't think so. His body of work is large enough where I think he gets docked a bit for how well Conner is doing, but I think he'll still get around $20-25 million guaranteed.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:52 am

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Bears need a RB now that Jordan Howard lost all his talent Space Jam style. Cohen's a gadget player.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:53 am

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pittmike wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

pittmike wrote:

I don't care what some of you have already claimed to be right about in this matter. It is simply dumb and ill advised. No matter how much he thinks he gets next year he never gets this year's money.

I dont think he made the right move, but what your saying doesn't really make sense. He could have had a career ending injury on his first carry this season and only get this years money. He'll definitely get more in guaranteed money than he was slated to make for this one year.

I’m guessing whatever insurance policy he had dealing with a career ending injury on his first carry was more than what he was slated to make this year as well.

I dont know about that. I think they are usually a little smaller, but either way, he'll almost certainly make more in his next deal than he would have just this season.

Even if you are absolutely correct he still missed an earning year and 15M or whatever. Whatever though it is his life and he has an agent to guide him.

He may have extended his career a year though.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:57 am

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This didn’t age well .

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:58 am

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FavreFan wrote:

pittmike wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

pittmike wrote:

I don't care what some of you have already claimed to be right about in this matter. It is simply dumb and ill advised. No matter how much he thinks he gets next year he never gets this year's money.

I suppose. Depends on the signing bonus if any. Also, he will have to find a loophole to get away from the Steelers.

The signing bonus is the guaranteed money. If it's less than 30 million guaranteed (probably will be) it was a bad decision by Bell. If it's more than that it was a good decision.

There's no loophole he needs to get away from Pitt. They aren't signing him to a QB franchise tag next season.

They can still transition rather than franchise.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:01 am

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I'm just glad he's not making a penny, I wouldn't sign him. Backs are easy to find, Pittsburgh found one week one. I'd love to see him get a weak ads contract after this, not many teams are gonna buck up that much cap space for a RB.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:07 am

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312player wrote:

I Backs are easy to find

So easy that every team has a good one :lol:

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:08 am

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Next year Bell and his agent will be screaming COLLUSION when this mega offer never materializes.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 am

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Conner having a good year (better than Bell's 2017) really fucked up Bell's plans.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:26 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

Next year Bell and his agent will be screaming COLLUSION when this mega offer never materializes.

No doubt

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:30 am

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It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:32 am

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Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

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Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I'm pulling for the Bears to win it all, it wouldn't break my heart if this dipshit pulled a Todd Bell and missed a SB ring though.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:41 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Jets might be dumb enough to do it, Houston no way. They will draft a back.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:43 am

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312player wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Jets might be dumb enough to do it, Houston no way. They will draft a back.

Houston makes the most sense out of any contending team. Jets make the most sense in like you said they are dumb and will probably offer the most money so they can be "relevant" again for a day or two in the offseason.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:45 am

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If I'm Houston I'm going O line in first running back 2nd.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:47 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Actually the perfect place for him is the Bears.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:53 am

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pittmike wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Actually the perfect place for him is the Bears.

I trust Pace to draft a RB that he doesn't have to immediately give a $100M contract to.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:55 am

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Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Actually the perfect place for him is the Bears.

I trust Pace to draft a RB that he doesn't have to immediately give a $100M contract to.

Yep. Just say is all.

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Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell

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FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

I agree with you, I'd just love to see what he could put up there, AND with Michel still getting a lot of time where Bell gets flexed out.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:11 pm

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Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

It'd be nice to see him take Gronk's wasted cap space and hear the complaining begin.

I don't think he's going there. Michel looks good(if he can stay healthy) and they invested a high pick on him.

If I had to guess I would say he's going to the Texans or Jets.

Actually the perfect place for him is the Bears.

I trust Pace to draft a RB that he doesn't have to immediately give a $100M contract to.

Bell won't get half that and probably isn't looking for much more than half that. I'm guessing he gets something like 3 years, $42-44M, $25M guaranteed

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:19 pm

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My guess is he already has a deal lined up.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:51 pm

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Bell isn't coming to Chicago. Bears have to pay Callahan, and I have no desire to throw a bank vault at a guy that was so easily replaced by James Conner.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:54 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Bell isn't coming to Chicago. Bears have to pay Callahan, and I have no desire to throw a bank vault at a guy that was so easily replaced by Dan Conner.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:59 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Bell isn't coming to Chicago. Bears have to pay Callahan, and I have no desire to throw a bank vault at a guy that was so easily replaced by James Conner.

How many big CB contracts end up being worth it? Less than 10%?

Overpaying corners is one of the worst decisions a franchise can make. I just looked up several 'worst NFL contracts ever' lists...so many of them are corners.

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Callahan is a nickel back a very valued position in today's NFL. Texans dont' regret paying Honey Badger.

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Nas

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:09 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Callahan is a nickel back a very valued position in today's NFL. Texans dont' regret paying Honey Badger.

Agreed. There are some injury concerns but there aren't many better than him. I would love to have him back but at the right price

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:35 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Callahan is a nickel back a very valued position in today's NFL. Texans dont' regret paying Honey Badger.

They paid Honey badger for 1 year $7M.

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