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Yep. Told you he was hurt you idiot.

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Maybe Trae Young needs to come down with a case of the yips.

Trae Young from 3. 26%

Markelle Fultz from 3. 31%

Who Knew? :lol: :lol:

I know free throws are free. And the difference there staggeringly more than makes up the 5% on non-free 3 pointers. Because Fultz has made only 4 threes.

I still rather have Fultz but your Young hate is disingenuous. You know damn well a 8 APG guard can't be a bust.



I'm sticking to my guns on this one and there is no doubt that Fultz will be better. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that Young's numbers are inflated by playing on a shitty team that routinely loses by double figures. He may not be better than Jeremy Lin. Definitely isn't better than the guy they traded to grease the skids for him.


Lonzo avg 7 assist per game last season and he is basically a bust at this point. It happens. Once the level of investment goes away (typically once their people determine that he doesn't impact games much) then he will begin to be evaluated that way that he should.

Quinn Cook is the latest in a list (Trey Burke, Arch) of mediocre guards that have outplayed him.

If you put Fultz in a similar positions his numbers would be better than Young's. Its not even so much as the numbers its obvious to me that he is better.

His problem is that the "Process" has worked too well. Philly is trying to compete for a Championship while simultaneously furthering his development.

When he was drafted the 76ers weren't contending for a championship...and he didn't even play because he couldn't shot ….so you're wrong again



He was injured you idiot. Hashtag Hacks aren't usually privy to such info however.

Now we may actually have the cause.

https://heavy.com/sports/2018/11/markel ... le-sixers/

was and is are different words....fyi

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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Yep. Told you he was hurt you idiot.

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long time guy wrote:
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Maybe Trae Young needs to come down with a case of the yips.

Trae Young from 3. 26%

Markelle Fultz from 3. 31%

Who Knew? :lol: :lol:

I know free throws are free. And the difference there staggeringly more than makes up the 5% on non-free 3 pointers. Because Fultz has made only 4 threes.

I still rather have Fultz but your Young hate is disingenuous. You know damn well a 8 APG guard can't be a bust.



I'm sticking to my guns on this one and there is no doubt that Fultz will be better. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that Young's numbers are inflated by playing on a shitty team that routinely loses by double figures. He may not be better than Jeremy Lin. Definitely isn't better than the guy they traded to grease the skids for him.


Lonzo avg 7 assist per game last season and he is basically a bust at this point. It happens. Once the level of investment goes away (typically once their people determine that he doesn't impact games much) then he will begin to be evaluated that way that he should.

Quinn Cook is the latest in a list (Trey Burke, Arch) of mediocre guards that have outplayed him.

If you put Fultz in a similar positions his numbers would be better than Young's. Its not even so much as the numbers its obvious to me that he is better.

His problem is that the "Process" has worked too well. Philly is trying to compete for a Championship while simultaneously furthering his development.

When he was drafted the 76ers weren't contending for a championship...and he didn't even play because he couldn't shot ….so you're wrong again



He was injured you idiot. Hashtag Hacks aren't usually privy to such info however.

Now we may actually have the cause.

https://heavy.com/sports/2018/11/markel ... le-sixers/

was and is are different words....fyi


If you watched the games you'd know that he is still injured. I watched him in the Summer League and he didn't shoot anything like that. The whole "yips" thing is internet bullshit. The kid was hurt last year before he was benched. All you have to do is look at his shooting motion to know that it is something physical. He can't even get follow through on his shot.

It has gotten progressively worse as the year has gone on probably from the wear and tear of actually playing and drawing physical contact. I hope the kid finds out what is really wrong this time.


Consistent with the "watched him in the Summer League and he didn't shoot like that" comment.

Yet it didn’t take long for Fultz to describe his shoulder as problematic and as adversely impacting his play. During the preseason Fultz complained of shoulder pain, tightness and soreness. Neither a cortisone shot nor a drainage of fluid from the shoulder seemed to help him much. In October 2017, Fultz was diagnosed with “scapular muscle imbalance.” Such an ailment refers to where muscles connected to the shoulder blade are imbalanced, which in turn disrupts arm movement. Dr. David Chao, an orthopedic surgeon who served as San Diego Chargers team physician, authored a column in the San Diego Tribune in which he explained Fultz’s injury. Chao noted that the ailment can be corrected with physical therapy, but that surgery is also possible.


Fultz opted for rehabilitation and therapy, but it was to no avail. He also altered his shooting mechanics in hopes of minimizing the physical impact of the imbalance. Such a maneuver, however, created a new set of problems: it led Fultz to change what had been a reasonably proficient shooting motion into an inconsistent and ineffectual form. Fultz would play in only 14 of the 76ers’ 82 regular season games in ’17-’18. His stats were worse than most of the other players selected in the lottery and well behind those of the four other players who were drafted after him in the top five.

But one season, especially a rookie season, doesn’t make an NBA career. With that in mind, a healthier Fultz hoped to rebound in ‘18-‘19. To advance that goal, Fultz spent much of the summer working with famed shooting coach Drew Hanlen on rebuilding his shooting form. Fultz came to camp in September seemingly optimistic about his future. Brown also placed confidence in Fultz by inserting him into the starting lineup.

Unfortunately for Fultz, his ineffective and sometimes awkward-looking shooting has resurfaced. Also, with the 76ers’ recent acquisition of Jimmy Butler and with T.J. McConnell on the roster, Fultz now finds himself fighting for minutes off the bench. Meanwhile, according to HoopHype’s Alex Kennedy, Fultz and Hanlen are no longer working together or even speaking with one another. Kennedy reports that Fultz and Hanlen saw their relationship “deteriorate” from late October into mid-November. During that stretch, Hanlen opined on Twitter that Fultz is “still not healthy.” That statement could suggest that Fultz’s shoulder woes remain although it’s not clear which type of health condition Hanlen was referring to (he has since deleted the tweet).

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Sixers head coach Brett Brown and general manager Elton Brand said they weren't aware of any issues with Fultz prior to Brand receiving a call from Brothers on Tuesday morning, saying that the 20-year-old guard would not be playing until at least next week.
"There's nothing we saw medically that didn't allow him to play," Brand told reporters after the team practiced at its Camden, New Jersey, facility Tuesday afternoon. "He played last night. He played two days ago. :lol:

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Markelle Fulltz will not be playing in the 2018 NBA Summer League, according to multiple reports that came out Saturday evening

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Fultz has had a serious injury all along, and doctors have yet to successfully perform corrective surgery on the ligament commonly referred to as 'pride.'

Yips.

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Markelle Fulltz will not be playing in the 2018 NBA Summer League, according to multiple reports that came out Saturday evening



Thanks for validating my point about his shoulder still being injured this year also.

For the record my reference was in regards to the 2017 summer league. Thought you would have known but i should have known better.

I forgot that you don't actually watch games so everything has to be spelled out for you.

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Fultz has had a serious injury all along, and doctors have yet to successfully perform corrective surgery on the ligament commonly referred to as 'pride.'

Yips.



Nah his shoulder is legitimately injured. His shot trainer stated that he was "still injured" already. He'd know for certain.

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If he says he's hurt, then he's hurt. I believe him...for now. Time, as always, is the truthteller.


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I commend the kid for attempting to play while he is injured.

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the 1st person he saw was his attorney ….head case

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Young a way better pro than Fultz ….no wait this or that...….. Fultz is done

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Young a way better pro than Fultz ….no wait this or that...….. Fultz is done



If he is it will be by default

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Young a way better pro than Fultz ….no wait this or that...….. Fultz is done



If he is it will be by default

doesn't matter

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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Young a way better pro than Fultz ….no wait this or that...….. Fultz is done



If he is it will be by default

doesn't matter



It also isn't settled yet. I will remember this the next time your contradictory posting ass starts whining about it being "too early" to determine whether a player is good or not.

Interesting how the "10 games" bullshit excuse was checked at the door here.

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This team is starting to look pretty good. Simmons is great, but you can see the rookie in him at times. still makes some poor decisions when driving, but that will definitely improve the more confident he gets with his own offense. Last night he passed up a 4 footer to throw it out to a guy on the perimeter. You could tell he didn't feel comfortable with the 4 footer.

The real surprise though has been TJ McConnel. Guy has been nothing short of fantastic for them in a limited role. Playing great d and doing well offensively. 7ppg on 52 FG% along with 3 boards, 5 assists and 1.5 steals. You could argue he's been the 3rd best player on their team this year ahead of Covington and Bayless.

8 game ROY




I'm still riding with Fultz if he can go. I will just have to take the L.

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Yet it didn’t take long for Fultz to describe his shoulder as problematic and as adversely impacting his play. During the preseason Fultz complained of shoulder pain, tightness and soreness. Neither a cortisone shot nor a drainage of fluid from the shoulder seemed to help him much. In October 2017, Fultz was diagnosed with “scapular muscle imbalance.” Such an ailment refers to where muscles connected to the shoulder blade are imbalanced, which in turn disrupts arm movement. Dr. David Chao, an orthopedic surgeon who served as San Diego Chargers team physician, authored a column in the San Diego Tribune in which he explained Fultz’s injury. Chao noted that the ailment can be corrected with physical therapy, but that surgery is also possible.


Fultz opted for rehabilitation and therapy, but it was to no avail. He also altered his shooting mechanics in hopes of minimizing the physical impact of the imbalance. Such a maneuver, however, created a new set of problems: it led Fultz to change what had been a reasonably proficient shooting motion into an inconsistent and ineffectual form. Fultz would play in only 14 of the 76ers’ 82 regular season games in ’17-’18. His stats were worse than most of the other players selected in the lottery and well behind those of the four other players who were drafted after him in the top five.

But one season, especially a rookie season, doesn’t make an NBA career. With that in mind, a healthier Fultz hoped to rebound in ‘18-‘19. To advance that goal, Fultz spent much of the summer working with famed shooting coach Drew Hanlen on rebuilding his shooting form. Fultz came to camp in September seemingly optimistic about his future. Brown also placed confidence in Fultz by inserting him into the starting lineup.

Unfortunately for Fultz, his ineffective and sometimes awkward-looking shooting has resurfaced. Also, with the 76ers’ recent acquisition of Jimmy Butler and with T.J. McConnell on the roster, Fultz now finds himself fighting for minutes off the bench. Meanwhile, according to HoopHype’s Alex Kennedy, Fultz and Hanlen are no longer working together or even speaking with one another. Kennedy reports that Fultz and Hanlen saw their relationship “deteriorate” from late October into mid-November. During that stretch, Hanlen opined on Twitter that Fultz is “still not healthy.” That statement could suggest that Fultz’s shoulder woes remain although it’s not clear which type of health condition Hanlen was referring to (he has since deleted the tweet).

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Yet it didn’t take long for Fultz to describe his shoulder as problematic and as adversely impacting his play. During the preseason Fultz complained of shoulder pain, tightness and soreness. Neither a cortisone shot nor a drainage of fluid from the shoulder seemed to help him much. In October 2017, Fultz was diagnosed with “scapular muscle imbalance.” Such an ailment refers to where muscles connected to the shoulder blade are imbalanced, which in turn disrupts arm movement. Dr. David Chao, an orthopedic surgeon who served as San Diego Chargers team physician, authored a column in the San Diego Tribune in which he explained Fultz’s injury. Chao noted that the ailment can be corrected with physical therapy, but that surgery is also possible.


Fultz opted for rehabilitation and therapy, but it was to no avail. He also altered his shooting mechanics in hopes of minimizing the physical impact of the imbalance. Such a maneuver, however, created a new set of problems: it led Fultz to change what had been a reasonably proficient shooting motion into an inconsistent and ineffectual form. Fultz would play in only 14 of the 76ers’ 82 regular season games in ’17-’18. His stats were worse than most of the other players selected in the lottery and well behind those of the four other players who were drafted after him in the top five.

But one season, especially a rookie season, doesn’t make an NBA career. With that in mind, a healthier Fultz hoped to rebound in ‘18-‘19. To advance that goal, Fultz spent much of the summer working with famed shooting coach Drew Hanlen on rebuilding his shooting form. Fultz came to camp in September seemingly optimistic about his future. Brown also placed confidence in Fultz by inserting him into the starting lineup.

Unfortunately for Fultz, his ineffective and sometimes awkward-looking shooting has resurfaced. Also, with the 76ers’ recent acquisition of Jimmy Butler and with T.J. McConnell on the roster, Fultz now finds himself fighting for minutes off the bench. Meanwhile, according to HoopHype’s Alex Kennedy, Fultz and Hanlen are no longer working together or even speaking with one another. Kennedy reports that Fultz and Hanlen saw their relationship “deteriorate” from late October into mid-November. During that stretch, Hanlen opined on Twitter that Fultz is “still not healthy.” That statement could suggest that Fultz’s shoulder woes remain although it’s not clear which type of health condition Hanlen was referring to (he has since deleted the tweet).

Here's the whole article. There's MANY possible twist and turns
www.si.com/nba/2018/11/20/markelle-fult ... mmy-butler


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:58 pm 
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Young has Lowry, Irving, and Walker the next 3 games.

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Young has Lowry, Irving, and Walker the next 3 games.

and Fultz has no one :lol: :lol:

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Young has Lowry, Irving, and Walker the next 3 games.

and Fultz has no one :lol: :lol:



Idiot is making the same dumbass presumptions that he made with Embiid and Philly. You haven't learned yet you damn fool?

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Young has Lowry, Irving, and Walker the next 3 games.

and Fultz has no one :lol: :lol:



Idiot is making the same dumbass presumptions that he made with Embiid and Philly. You haven't learned yet you damn fool?
You will learn from Fultz

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Listen you can be right on everything you post and I can be wrong, but you are still a Image

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Fultz wants a "fresh start " what an ass clown

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Young has Lowry, Irving, and Walker the next 3 games.

and Fultz has no one :lol: :lol:

:lol:

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Fultz wants a "fresh start "



Your thoughts on basketball are also in need of a fresh start.

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Fultz wants a "fresh start "



Your thoughts on basketball are also in need of a fresh start.

wow a good one! You'll still take Fultz over Young,,,,shows your smarts

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Even the NFL players are making fun old Markelle Fultz

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Trae Young. 1 for his last 22 in threes. Shit this is getting bad. But oh he is suiting up though.

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Trae Young. 1 for his last 22 in threes. Shit this is getting bad. But oh he is suiting up though.

Yeah

Fultz not suiting up

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Trae Young. 1 for his last 22 in threes. Shit this is getting bad. But oh he is suiting up though.

Yeah

Fultz not suiting up




I think the Hawks wish that Trae wasn't either right about now. He stinks.

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+- -35 for Trae Young in 19 minutes. 2 for 7 with for 5 points.

This is starting to get bad.

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